What Happens When a Warrior Culture Meets a Cooperative, Tolerant, Peaceloving Culture?

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In the fascinating book, Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies (which has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam) the author, Jared Diamond writes:

On the Chatham Islands, 500 miles east of New Zealand, centuries of independence came to a brutal end for the Moriori people in December 1835. On November 19 of that year, a ship carrying 500 Maori armed with guns, clubs, and axes arrived, followed on December 5 by a shipload of 400 more Maori. Groups of Maori began to walk through Moriori settlements, announcing that the Moriori were now their slaves, and killing those who objected. An organized resistance by the Moriori could still then have defeated the Maori, who were outnumbered two to one. However, the Moriori had a tradition of resolving disputes peacefully. They decided in a council meeting not to fight back but to offer peace, friendship, and a division of resources.

Before the Moriori could deliver that offer, the Maori attacked en masse. Over the course of the next few days, they killed hundreds of Moriori, cooked and ate many of the bodies, and enslaved all the others, killing most of them too over the next few years as it suited their whim. A Moriori survivor recalled, "[The Maori] commenced to kill us like sheep...[We] were terrified, fled to the bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed — men, women, and children indiscriminately." A Maori conqueror explained, "We took possession...in accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one escaped. Some ran away from us, these we killed, and others we killed — but what of that? It was in accordance with our custom."

The moral to this story? It doesn't matter how tolerant you are when you're the target of someone with different values. You and your culture's tolerance and cooperativeness will not win over someone who sees those as merely weakness.

What is the best response to an aggressive culture with intolerant, uncooperative values? Find out here: Does Niceness Work With Everybody?

12 comments:

Anonymous 8:43 PM  

Yes Mahatma Gandhi was successful due to Britishors but if Islamic rulers would have been there, then story would have been different!

Anonymous 10:30 AM  

Citizen Warrior's brilliant article exposes the truth about predatory societies and tells us negotiation with them is suicidal. Currrently America is on a suicidal path with the predatory invader called Islam. By permitting Islam's relgion status America is cutting her ownthroat. Please see My article in support of Citizen Warrior:
http://www.rightsidenews.com/2010100111804/editorial/rsn-pick-of-the-day/islams-invasion-ideology.html

Sincerely, Martel Sobieskey

Robert Laity 1:24 PM  

Islam has no concern for peace. It wants the World and do not care how they get it. It is called "Dar-el-Salaam":
http://www.nmatv.com/video/618/What-Islam-Is-Not/

Citizen Warrior 1:27 PM  

Someone emailed this comment:

Your article, "What Happens When a Warrior Culture Meets a Gentle, Cooperative, Peace Loving Culture" is a Home Run, right on target, hits the bulls eye. It is 100% strategically accurate.

A predator ideology will always devour other societies. This is a fact that America is in extreme denial about to the point of being suicidal.

What the Maoris did is exactly what Islam has done a million times over for the past 1400 years as you well know and this example of Maori predation points out what is guaranteed to happen again and again. "Blood thirsty Tigers" are not bunny rabbits even if we wish them to be.

Anonymous 8:21 PM  

"Blood thirsty Tigers" are not bunny rabbits even if we wish them to be.

Thats a headline we should think and realise everyday

Bosch Fawstin 11:24 AM  

Great work as usual, CW, thanks.

Anonymous 12:06 PM  

good grief.
this article misses the point in so many ways it ridiculous.

Citizen Warrior 12:33 PM  

Enlighten us.

Anonymous 12:56 PM  

you still worrying about an invented war with fictional opponents... meanwhile your own goverment is selling you out... brother you need to wake up.

Karl 4:04 AM  

Interestingly the descendants of these people, the Maori, were subsequently colonised by the British and suffered the same fate. They fought in many battles but were eventually defeated. Their final response, for these particular tribes that attacked the Moriori was mass peaceful resistance...a forerunner to Ghandi.

Anonymous 11:34 AM  

I believe it wasnt all Maori that felt that way and the Maori that done this act were from a particular area, Maori were diverse tribes throughout Aotearoa New Zealand. The culture was fierce and acknowledges roots to Tu matauenga, the god of war. They also lived in harmony with nature and had protocol around these values. Maybe you need to do more digbing to unearth better facts instead 8f summarizing a nation of diverse peoples.

WalterSieruk 8:07 AM  








The imams as well as the mullahs and the other apologists for Islam do often quote the Old Testament book of the Bible of the of Deuteronomy 18:18 as “proof” that the coming the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, was predicted in the Bible.

For this verse reads “I will raise up a Prophet from among the brethren , like unto thee, and I will put my words in his month; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” [K.J.V.]

To examine this verse in the entire light of the Bible does reveal the real identity of this coming Prophet.

For example the part of that verse which reads “I will put my words in his month; he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” This was fulfilled centuries later by Jesus Who declared “For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which send me, he gave me a command, what I should say, and what I should speak.” John 12:49.

Concerning the first part of that verse which is “I will raise up a Prophet from among the brethren, like unto thee. …” The three specific words “like unto thee.” God speaking to Moses and” like unto thee” meaning, as similar to Moses. There are in, fact, many similarities between Moses and Jesus.

So a Christian pastor and author had written and book [1] listing some, but not all of the similarities between Moses and Jesus. Listed are some clear points he gave in this comparing Moses with Jesus.

The author gave after the different points of comparison on the number the points gave much detail to back those points up. So listed here are some of them but not the added details the writer gave back up the claims in the points given.

The words in brackets are my own to make things more clear for some people

In his book the points are listed under the heading “Parallels between Moses and Jesus”

[I] Both Moses and Jesus were born in a period when Israel was under foreign rule.

[II] Cruel kings decided that both Moses and Jesus should be killed as infants.

[III] The faith of both Moses’ and Jesus’ parents saved their lives.

[IV] Both Moses and Jesus found protection for a time with the people of Egypt.

[V] Both Moses and Jesus displayed unusual wisdom and understanding.

[VI] Both Moses’ and Jesus’ characters were marked by meekness and humility.

[VII] Both Moses and Jesus were completely faithful to God [The Father]

[VIII] Both Moses and Jesus were rejected by Israel for a time.

[IX]Both Moses and Jesus were criticized by their brothers and sisters.

[X] Both Moses and Jesus were received by Gentiles after being rejected by Israel.

[XI] Both Moses and Jesus prayed asking forgiveness for God’s people.

[XII] Both Moses and Jesus were willing to bear the punishment of God’s people.

[XIII] Both Moses and Jesus went up into a high mountain to have communism with God, [the Father] taking some of their closest friends with them.

[XIV] After their mountaintop experiences, both Moses’ and Jesus’ faces shone with supernatural glory.

[XV] God [the Father] spoke audibly from heaven to both Moses and Jesus.

[XVI] Moth Moses’ and Jesus’ places of burial were attended by angles.

[XVIII] Both Moses and Jesus appeared alive after their deaths.

The Christian author and pastor after providing that above list further wrote
“These are a few of the scriptural comparisons of Moses and Jesus….”


So now everyone may see, but only those who are willing to see, that Deuteronomy 18:18 was a Old Testament prophecy referring exclusively only to Jesus, and to Him alone.


[1] JERUSALEM COUNTDOWN by John Hagee, pages 179,176.


















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