The Search For The Moderate Muslim
Tuesday
THIS MAY BE one of the most difficult issues to deal with for those of us who are working to defeat the third jihad: What about the moderate Muslims? Is there such a thing? What does "moderate" mean?
I think what most of us hope it means is "a Muslim that openly and definitely repudiates the violent, intolerant, supremacist passages in the Qur'an."
But the more I read about mainstream "moderate" Muslim organizations in America, the more I realize that what I hope "moderate" means and what those "moderate Muslims" mean by the term are entirely different. I am getting the feeling that the term "moderate Muslim" is not only pointless, but misleading — perhaps even deliberately misleading.
I think we should all stop using the term. We should come up with a name for Muslims who straightforwardly reject the violent, intolerant passages in the Qur'an and openly reject the supremacist ideology strewn throughout Islamic teachings.
In my opinion, someone who does that is not really a Muslim, but maybe they still enjoy praying five times a day and fasting during Ramadan, so they might prefer to call themselves Muslims. Maybe they don't want to feel ejected from their community and family. Who am I to tell someone what they call themselves?
On the other hand, we non-Muslims need a term that draws a distinction between the two types of Muslims. One type is dangerous to non-Muslims and one is not. A Muslim may not care about this distinction, but it's pretty important to us non-Muslims.
I heard Walid Phares use the term "democracy-seeking Muslims" and I thought that was pretty good, but it doesn't go far enough. Until a Muslim acknowledges that there are, in fact, calls to violence and intolerance against non-Muslims in their central holy book, and then repudiates those specific Qur'anic passages, I don't feel that Muslim can be trusted.
I know that would sound terrible to someone who doesn't know anything about Islam. But really, this is a pretty straightforward matter. If you call yourself a Muslim, almost everybody on earth is assuming you think the Qur'an contains the core teachings you will follow. For us non-Muslims who have read the book, that's a scary thought. For those of you who haven't read it yet, these passages will give you an idea: What the Qur'an Says About Non-Muslims.
So a firm repudiation of those passages would at least acknowledge that the Muslim knows those passages exist and acknowledges that they should be rejected. I know it is entirely possible someone saying so could be lying, but it would at least be a start.
What should we call Muslims who repudiate intolerant and supremacist Islamic teachings? "Moderate" isn't good enough. How about "Scrubbed Muslims?" "Jihad-rejecting Muslims?" "Freed Muslims?" "Friendly Muslims?" "Non-jihadi Muslims?" "Pluralist Muslims?"
I like "Jihad-rejecting Muslims," or JRMs. As far as non-Muslims are concerned, JRMs are the only ones we should engage in "interfaith dialogs" and the only ones allowed to provide counsel for the FBI and the only ones translating documents for security services.
JRMs are the only Muslims who should be allowed to preach in mosques in free countries or teach in madrassas. This is just simple, reasonable self-preservation. A person who calls himself a Muslim but does not openly reject the killing of non-Muslims for being non-Muslims, and who does not reject the overthrow of legitimate democracies, and who does not reject Shari'a law, should not be allowed into those positions. That should be a no-brainer for any person who cares about their government's survival.
So far there aren't many Muslims who are clearly JRMs. The term "moderate Muslims" lets them off the hook — they don't have to risk rejection by their families or perhaps even risk their lives openly repudiating specific Qur'anic passages, and non-Muslims are left with no way to tell who is a friend and who is a foe.
The term "moderate Muslim" also allows Muslims to remain "undeclared." They don't have to decide whose side they are on. They can secretly harbor a wish that some day their democratic country will be ruled by Shari'a, that some day Islam will reign supreme over the whole world, and that some day all kafirs will pay the jizya (tax on non-Muslims), and yet they may look in every way like a good citizen, trusted by non-Muslims, allowed into influential positions, etc. But if circumstances permitted, they would work toward their Islamic supremacist fantasy. They can function like a kind of sleeper cell in our midst.
By making our own term and defining it, we can make a clear distinction for ourselves and for Muslims, between who is an enemy and who is a friend.
I don't know if simply rejecting jihad would be even be enough, however. One of the most fundamental principles of Islam is that loyalty to Islam comes before loyalty to anything else, including one's country or even one's family. Wouldn't that be a potential problem if the person is working for the government? But maybe our definition of a JRM could include a repudiation of this Islamic hierarchy of loyalties as well.
Another problem is that it says in the Qur'an over seventy times that a Muslim should use Mohammad as an example to emulate. And Mohammad ordered the torture of people, personally participated in beheading 600 people in one night, ordered and led raids on caravans, captured, owned and had sex with slaves, and spent the last ten years of his life conquering and subjugating people. So the definition of a JRM would also have to include a bold rejection of the idea that Mohammad is someone who should be imitated.
Since the stakes are so high for us non-Muslims (being the target of the violence), and since it is easy enough to find out what it actually says in the Qur'an (that it's a Muslim's duty to fight against the unbelievers until no god is worshiped in the world but Allah), we would be foolish to cavalierly grant our trust to Muslims until they prove themselves trustworthy.
The onus, the burden of proof, is not on non-Muslims.
Muslims will have to prove themselves trustworthy. This whole thing is difficult for all of us, but this distinction must be made. It's a sane response for non-Muslims to make to this sticky situation.
If any Muslim thinks this is offensive or intolerable or somehow outrageous, I think we have discovered someone who is trying to pretend those dangerous passages are not in their holy book, and that sounds like someone we cannot trust.
But if non-Muslims named and defined who we would be willing to trust, and we did it clearly and defiantly, we might find out how many Muslims are on the side of freedom, equality, and pluralism. What do you think?

14 comments:
I think you may well be right, and I come to this conclusion sadly, since I too do not wish to tell people how to describe themselves.
But sites like yours and mine have spent months, some years, advising "moderate Muslims" to "come out" and show themselves willing to question some of their barbaric teachings.
It may well be that many of them are as "secular" and habitual in their religion as non-Muslims, but due to the ferocity of some in their midst they are cowed into submission and are afraid to speak out.
After all, the very word Islam means "submission". And what the Khoran says is considered unquestionable.
I don't know where this is headed, but here in Britain I am deeply concerned that not one of the main political parties is looking at the issue of Islamist fundamentalism, which we know is breeding in (some) mosques, universities, communities and inside prisons.
Meanwhile Sharia law now has its sister in our land - Sharia courts, in at least five cities.
I'd like to use or refer to your article at my blog. I hope this is alright with you.
Many thanks for your thoughts here.
BlairSupporter, it's definitely all right with me if you use or refer to my article. I love being referred to!
Great piece CW, I think 'Secular Muslims' might be good for us non-Muslims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular
"Approximate antonyms for secular are religious and devout."
This might bother some Muslims, but it's a good way in a simple 'label' to continually remind Infidels where the difference lies.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe
HATES secular humans
rejecting what is backwards
in religions that they love
absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
Earth is a terrible place
but it is still the best
planet in the Universe
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All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
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Philosophy of Liberty Cartoon
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Have added the link - in fact your whole article. There was nothing I wanted to leave out.
What do I think? Hmmm. I think the religion itself is deadly and therefore anyone who follows it is also deadly, even if all they do is tithe to their mosque who then gives the money to those who are more deadly. ALL MUSLIMS ARE DEADLY TO FREEDOM!
I would ask any Muslim: Why are you a Muslim if you don't agree with jihad? with Mohammud? with Shari'a law?
I agree with pinkneck. Asking a Muslim to reject any part of the Koran,or to say Muhammad was anything less than the perfect Prophet is like asking a Christian to deny the divinity of Jesus Christ; it negates the entire belief system.Jesus was not an advocate of violence,Muhammad was fluent in the language of conquest.Therefore,anyone who follows the teachings of this raving lunatic Muhammad must be dealt with,harshly if need be.
I dont agree that there are moderate muslims. They are minority. Not even one percent. Some people mistakenly think that educated Muslims are moderate. It is very worng Educated Mulsims are even ore dangerous. Heard about a professor Khadri Khan in US? Glasgow airport blast was planned by well educated doctors. There is NO MODERATE or GOOD MUSLIMS. All of them are either terrorists or atleast sympathize with terrorists. Try convincing a single Muslim to speak against another Muslim. We should appreciate their Unity. That is one thing the rest of the world can learn. Mulsims are taught to destroy the world because they are incompetitive. Neighbour'sprogress breeds jealousy. Because they cant compete with the rest of the world, they are taught right from their birth that there is nothing more important than religion. They are born to destroy the world. Thats it. Period. Not even 1% of Muslims oppose terrorism. Why come up with a name for them?
Muslims against Sharia is a good example of moderate or secular Muslims www.reformislam.org. This includes the filmmaker of the Third Jihad, also a secular or moderate Muslim. They do exist and they are beginning to speak out, but their numbers are small. I look forward to the growth of this movement.
Dear CW
I come from a predominantly-Muslim country and I'm expected to think, speak and act like a Muslim just because my family/community is Muslim. However, I've never been a believer of Islam, and it's very difficult for me to come out of the closet because it will completely destroy my relationship with my friends and family (who I do love).
Your article is very interesting to me, because I always find myself stuck between (a) criticizing Islam; and (b) defending the many peaceful Muslims whom I know. You see, even though I am myself a closet-infidel, I come from a family/community that believes in peace and they don't have anything to do with terrorism.
I certainly don't agree with the commentator in here who says that Muslims are all terrorists. However, it is true that Muslims are taught to embrace the Quran in full and not reject any passage at all (even if they don't fully understand the meaning of the passages!).
An excellent article with excellent commentary following.
I heard an excellent question recently that if the koran is the word of god; that if sharia is the law of god; then can man transform it into something else?
I would like for all of the world's muslims to be "JRMs", but if that were the case, could they truly still be called muslim?
Al taubah, or sura 9, actually the next to last -- or penultimate -- revealed sura, is universal and eternal. Can we cut that and the other unabrogated 'bad parts' like 98:6 (repeated many times in slightly different words) out of the koran?
I think not. What we have left with the transformation of islam into a peaceful 'love thy neighbor' type of religion is not islam at all. The "submitted" (muslims) become the anchorless; the adrift.
The desert pirate and his fake god become meaningless.
Islam delende est.
this message will be so cliche. but you should learn islam from turkey.(official muslim ...=diyanet işleri)
Mainstream Muslims in Turkey believe:
-"Jihad by swords" time has passed.Also we believe that Jihad means missionary thing. You should learn that missionary and wanting,fantasying that all World is muslim is not a bad thing.
-%50 of us believe that there is not headscarves in islam. Kuran says `women,cover your area that is up from your chest` Yes. Some of us believe this. I think you are surprised. :D
-we dont marry 4 wifes.
-Yes we can drink but we dont eat pork. that is really our red border.
-In Turkey, converted muslims are more more cool than normal -musl'm born- muslims.
-We sacrifice animals Allah, but not in streets. in special places.
-I think %1 of turkish people know you. if they know, most of us will find this blog offensive.(Even most secualar and modern girl-drink,sex, etc.- say this
JonTURK,
I am aware that many Muslims do not follow Islamic doctrine, and I am very glad about that.
What we are exposing here on Citizen Warrior is what Islam says in its doctrines. We hope NOBODY will follow it. When that day comes, I suppose I can stop doing this.
But in the West especially most people are woefully uninformed about Islamic doctrine. They don't know why orthodox Muslims do what they're doing. They can't imagine that a religion could support those intolerant, violent, supremacist actions around the world, and they have no idea how political Islamic doctrine is. We try to inform.
Citizen Warrior is not for Muslims. If a Muslim does not know about Islamic doctrine, we hope they remain ignorant. Those who are familiar with Islamic doctrine have no need to read this information. We are here to inform NON-Muslims, since 61 percent of the Koran is about non-Muslims.
You're saying that Muslims who are NOT terrorists are those who don't know about Islamic doctrine. So you're saying that perhaps 99 percent of Muslims in this world don't know the doctrine of their own religion? That's rather misleading, considering there are many different interpretations of what the "Islamic doctrine" really is. So, in effect, what you're doing is, you're taking the worst of the Muslims, and you're telling the ignorant non-Muslims in the West that THAT is what Islam is all about. Eventually they will hate ALL Muslims, even if you say that's not what you intend to do. You know, in the end, you're just a preacher of hate. You're just the same as the terrorists who preach hate.
Hating people who call themselves Muslims would be stupid. But knowing what the doctrine says is smart. I have read many versions of the Koran. They all say the same thing. They use different words, but it is very similar. Don't take my word for it. Don't take anyone's word for it. Read it yourself. You can obviously read. Check it out for yourself.
The DOCTRINE is hostile to non-Muslims. Luckily many Muslims either ignore the ugly parts or don't know what it says. But you don't need a huge majority to make it a dangerous doctrine.
Why the Peaceful Majority is Irrelevant
You're probably a good person who just wants the world to be at peace, and I can appreciate that. But which would be the best use of your time? To convince me not to educate non-Muslims about the doctrine of Islam, or convincing believing, orthodox Muslims that they're interpreting the doctrines incorrectly?
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