Leaders Who Suggest Curbing Muslim Immigration
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| Muslims in Germany |
To be on the safe side, shouldn't we limit Muslim immigration until this kind of thing can be sorted out?
Looking around the world, we can see that the larger the percentage of Muslims in a given country, the more strongly and successfully the politically-active orthodox Muslims among them press for concessions to Islamic norms. Stopping Muslim immigration seems a sensible, obvious, self-preserving measure for a country to take, doesn't it? What do you think? Leave a comment on this article or email me and I'll post it for you.
I'm not the only one to advocate putting a stop to Muslim immigration, of course. Pim Fortuyn led one of the most consequential efforts so far to end Muslim immigration, in his case, to the Netherlands.
In an interview, Mark Steyn was asked, "What should the United States do?"
He said first the U.S. should stop "ideological subversion," meaning we should prevent people like the Saudis from buying their way into places where they have influence, like Middle Eastern studies on college campuses, and building mosques here that teach orthodox Islam, and so on. He said, "If you are not on ideological offense, you're going to get rolled."
Second, he said, "Unless you have real serious cultural confidence, you should not have mass Muslim immigration."
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| Orthodox Muslims moving into free countries. |
"Analyzing the problem is one thing; solving it is another. Robert Spencer’s prescriptions on what to do will rankle some and lead to his further character assassination. He is at his best when calling for the government to impose existing laws — and most gets to the point when he calls for a revival of patriotism, the self-assurance necessary to deny Islamic encroachment, white liberal guilt, and multiculturalist recriminations of the greatest nation in the history of the world. He is at his most questionable in calling on the government to 'End Muslim immigration into the United States.'"
Two Australian politicians, Pauline Hanson and Paul Green, have called for a moratorium on Muslim immigration.
Geert Wilders, Wafa Sultan, Bruce Bawer, and the late Oriana Fallaci have also recommended stopping Muslim immigration.
So what do you think? Should free nations stop or limit Muslim immigration? Why? What about the heterodox Muslims? Should they be taken into consideration? Do you think it is unfair to discriminate like this?



21 comments:
CW asked, "Should free nations stop or limit Muslim immigration? Why?"
YES! Because the worldview of Muslims is contrary to the worldview of free nations and Muslims will seek to use law and force or barbaric mob rule and terrorism to get the citizens of free nations to submit to their worldview out of the fear of violence or death.
It does not matter if we call them Sunni, Shia, Suffi, Orthodox, Fundamentalist, Moderate or heterodox Muslims. They all adhere to the same worldview based on the Koran and the example of Mohammad.
All immigrants and refugees to the USA, including all Muslims currently living in the USA, must pledge allegiance to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Flag of the USA or be asked to leave. In addition, anyone guilty of teaching sedition against the USA must be penalized or deported. There is no other way.
JD
Someone emailed this comment:
With the second generation being radical, why arent they being killed by their parents for dishonoring them? They sure do it to their daughters. Maybe all of them need to pass a lie detector test upon entry into country.
Someone emailed this comment:
CW,
muslim immigration definitely needs to be curbed if western democracies want to preserve their way of life.
Even though many muslims are good, decent people who cherish their lives in the west, away from their islamic hell-hole, there is no way to distinguish these muslims from the rest of the muslims.
But even the good, decent muslims do pay zakat which probably goes to further jihad.
And the good, decent muslims also do not speak up when their jihadi co-religionists go on the rampage so considering everything else, all muslim immigration must stop if the western way of life, its freedoms are to be preserved.
Someone emailed this comment:
To answer your question I believe the question is what do they contribute to society? Personally I can't think of anything.
Someone left this comment:
I support stopping all Muslim Immigration to America. If a Muslim starts his rhetoric of death to America, like in UK, I would deport him as well as his whole family. If they happen to be U.S. citizens, strip them of citizenship and deport the whole family to their old country.
Islam isn't a religion, it is a cult. Muslims only respect a hard stance. They view America as
a weak country...
Someone emailed this comment:
Most come here to gain the free benefits we provide.
The old days after WW2 you had to have a trade and a sponsor.
To become a citizen, you had to speak English and study our history and government and laws for it.
You were screened if you were a German for example...hmm that is profiling, wonder why? We just fought a war with them.
Someone left this comment:
What I feel on this whole thing is totally different from the existing discourse. For me the main question is-what is Real Islam? as this is all Arab Islam,not "Islam the Real" which is, for me, the great ancient non-Arab tradition of non-Arab Asia which I love to call as Hindu Islam also. This Islamic tradition is the Real Authentic tradition of Islam.It is not Koranic but Vedic and its language is not Arabic but Sanskrit. Surprisingly, the AfPak region is its place of birth.
Arab Islam is "for the Arab, by the Arab, of the Arab".Its frame or canvas is Arabia only. Beyond it, it is sheer Imperialism.I have stated this many times-seeking your forgiveness for this- but I just cannot refrain myself from not putting this before you.Please don't mix up Islam with Arab Islam; Islam is different and Arab Islam is different.Go for the Real Islam; you will land up somewhere else.My Islam which is the great ancient tradition of non-Arab Islam of non-Arab Asia is totally different from this Arab brand of Islam; it is neither violent nor hate-promoting; it is extremely tolerant and democratic.Nor it is anti-West.It exists in perfect harmony with the West.It produces a person like Gandhi, not Osama and exports peace, understanding and democracy,not terrorism.Please don't mix up True Islam with Arab Islam , both are fundamentally different in nature and character. Gandhi represents the truest and purest form of Islam.
Non-Arab Asia(ie India) is the real land of Islam (ie Hindu Islam).
Someone emailed this comment:
How to stop muslim immigration?
Change immigration refugee policy to acceptance only of persecuted religious minorities (Christians)
eliminate from the Human Rights charter the right to be offended or humiliated.
Any accepted immigrants that want to import families must show proof of pre-payment of medical insurance covering a 5-year period.
Citizens marrying a foreigner are responsible financially for the foreigner for a 3-year period.
CANADA has recently implemented the above.
Old age pension is eligible only to people who have resided in country for at least ten years any immigrant convicted of an offense requiring six-month emprisonment or more will be deported afterwards (this is for people in country since a certain number of years or newly arrived) CANADA will be implementing the above separation of church and state: no wearing of ostentatious (visible) religious symbols in public education system and tax-funded institutions (no more hijabs)
QUEBEC is supposed to implement the above.
It's a beginning but better than nothing.
Someone just emailed this comment:
I am totally, utterly, and completely against muslim immigration. It is inviting the enemy into your own house.
I am also against giving any of my hard earned tax dollars to any muslim country, while we go deeper into debt every day. This is UNACCEPTABLE.
Islam and Christianity are COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE. Islamic law (shariah), and the Constitution of the United States are COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE. The only solution is isolation and containment. (we live here, you live there)
Why is this, you ask? I can boil it down for you in two simple sentences, even though there are so many differences it would take too long to write about them.
Christianity says to love, bless, and pray for your enemies. Islam says to subjugate, humiliate, and kill your enemies.
Why is the general public not aware of this? Islam is a death cult, and you are signing America's death warrant by allowing it to flourish in America.
I am appalled that the USA's leaders and the general public have not come to realize this.
Furthermore, I think Islam should be officially classified as a CULT, not a RELIGION, thereby denying any protections that would be given to religions in general. Of course, if the USA would have stuck by the Bible they would have this sense and we wouldn't be going through this now. This is what we get as a nation for denying God. It was really eerie by the way, when I heard the democrat party deny God three times at their convention, while voice voting on what should be in their party platform, and then boo when the yeas for "God" got chosen as the audible winners. De ja vu of the story of Peter in the Bible.
Isolation and containment are the most kind and humane solutions available. This is not "racism" or "discrimination". It is "survival for the West".
The USA needs to "grow a pair" and start being proud, not apologetic, for western values.
Someone emailed this comment:
Yes, Stopping Muslim Immigration would be a very wise policy for starters, and the sooner the better. Even returning some of them who have recently arrived within say the last year might also be a good idea and an excellent policy decision to counter balance the situation that has evolved here, namely that of the 'radicalization of Muslims into becoming following the dictates of jihad and the dictates of their leaders which seek to destroy western civilization and its ugly house, that being the United States and its Constitutional form of Government and elsewhere globally. This would seem to be common sense.
Someone emailed this comment:
Since their laws and lifestyle are so destructive and incompatible to our own we should stop immigration of Muslims.
Someone emailed this cheery thought:
Muslims are seeking asylum for different reasons. Some because of persecution, economic needs and to invade free countries (stealth Jihad).
No leader will stop Muslim immigration and people are so apathetic all they do is whine and do nothing. (aside from sending each other emails.)
I have asked my list not to send me any unless there is also the relevant politicians address in the address bar. I rarely get them now.
What needs to be done is to make their countries safe so there is no excuse for leaving.
This means all out war with countries these people are fleeing from.
Christians stand up for what they believe in to the same extent as the Muslims do.
It will never happen and as far as I'm concerned Islam has won already.
This was my answer:
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/06/morale-for-citizen-warrior.html
Someone emailed this comment:
Keep all Muslims out of the US now and forever!
Someone emailed this comment:
Now more than ever before, Citizen Warrior has to expose Islam's prime directive, to put the whole world under Islam and Shari law...people unwitting are being told we are not sensitive to this religion, while at the same time we are striping religious freedoms from Christians.
Someone emailed this comment:
Curbing? It needs to be stopped. Those not citizens, deported. In fact, I’d prefer all of them be deported.
We constantly hear what should be done, but nothing is done. Those that run the country choose to ignore us, or rather is it that only a few of us are protesting to their legislators?
Not sure what it is; however, I see no action, at all.
We can vote legislators out, but what if we don’t have enough votes? And…we have no control over our legislators once in office. They do what they want.
Unless, many of us join hands, speak up, protest in large numbers, we will lose. That may be the only thing, besides a re-vo-lu-*tion that will get our legislators’ attention.
There IS effective action taking place, and it's about to get a lot better. First of all, ACT! for America now has a large enough membership that Congresspeople HAVE to consider what they say because the group is large enough to effect a Congressperson's election, so doors are opening for their lobbyist. And that membership is growing. They've had many legal and political successes already and they're really just getting started. You should sign up for their email alerts:
http://www.actforamerica.org/
Second, some great legislation is being passed in Tennessee and they are in the process of documenting what they're doing so other states can duplicate their success at passing anti-Sharia legislation. You should sign up for the Tennessee Freedom Coalition's updates too:
http://www.tnfreedomcoalition.org/
I would propose a 20 year moratorium on Muslim immigration to the US. That would give us time to evaluate the problem and how Muslims are evaluated for immigration and how they integrate. Clearly it has become a major problem as you see Muslims suing businesses for special accomodations and everyone being afraid of offending Muslims and being sued or attacked.
Someone emailed this comment:
We absolutely and certainly should limit or eliminate Muslim immigration. Islam is simply incompatible with U.S. laws, customs, and our constitution. No one who espouses Islam should be allowed to immigrate any more than someone who espouses violent revolution. To permit such immigration is like cutting yourself and then intentionally pouring in germs and bacteria. Keep doing that and you will die!
It is time to take a serious look at controlling or eliminating immigration of Muslims in the United States. They are doing the same thing they did in the UK. Moving in and changing the country into "their" country with their ideas and views. My husband is from England and it is now considered prejudice to fly the St. George's Cross Flag in the UK. That is the flag of England!! and no longer are the English people allowed to wave their own flag due to Muslims crying prejudice! It is time we stop this before they end up turning America into their country for their jihad!
I believe Muslim immigration must be stopped altogether, and with no building of new mosques or wearing of traditional clothing in public. Any "laws" within the existing community is OK, as long as they do not conflict with laws and rights as per our Bill of Rights. There will be no freebies like welfare or food stamps. If you don't like the rules, stay where you are or go back where you came from. And oh yeah...if you are already here, the only flag that matters is the flag of the USA. That goes for everybody...not just Muslims. PERIOD.
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