Push Them To Read The Quran

Saturday

IT'S NOT very difficult to read the Quran. A child can do it. With the work they've done at CSPI making two versions easily readable by Westerners (and completely unscrambled), there is no excuse. The biggest issue facing Western civilization is the relentless aggression of Islamic supremacists, waging jihad by many means, including by gaining concessions, intimidation by violence, and outright murder.

And they continually and openly say they are doing it "in the name of Islam." And Islam has a only a few central holy books. The most central is the Quran.

Non-Muslims need to read this book. Non-Muslims need to be educated about Islam. A lot of the Quran is devoted to how Muslims should deal with non-Muslims.

In the effort to educate my fellow non-Muslims about Islam, I have been experimenting with different approaches. I've been trying to discover what's the best way to get my point across persuasively. One especially effective approach is to aggressively try to sell them on reading the Quran for themselves.

This approach does three good things. First, it reveals that I am both knowledgeable and confident. I'm so confident in what I'm saying, I want them to read the source and decide for themselves.

Second, it brings out in the open the fact that I have read the Quran and they haven't. This gives everything they say the feeling of obvious ignorance, and everything I say the feeling of evident knowledge.

Here's what I've discovered: As soon as I start trying to sell people on reading the Quran and describing what's in it, the whole tenor of the conversation shifts from a kind of arrogant dismissiveness to a respectful openness to what I'm saying. It's magic.

And the third good thing about this approach is that, it's all you would need to do. If they read the Quran, you need no longer tell them anything else about Islam.

Convince them to read A Simple Koran or An Abridged Koran, and explain why these are good books. Even your description of these books is a powerful display of your wealth of knowledge on the core subject and their total lack of knowledge about it.

For example, here's what I said recently to a friend of mine. We'd had a brief conversation in person, but it was cut short by circumstances, so I followed up with an email. I wrote:

What I meant to say is that there are good people who are Muslims, but in order to be a good person as a Muslim, you have to be a lousy Muslim (not follow the teachings of the religion). If you don't believe me, you really should read the Quran for yourself. Go to the source, man. It's not hard to understand, and it is not at all vague. It says exactly what it means. There are no clever parables to decipher, no symbolic language, no metaphorical prophesies. It is full of straight-up commands written by a single person. Direct. No room for misinterpretation.

I recommend a book called A Simple Koran. It is simple in the sense that it is made to be understood by Westerners. But it is the entire Quran written in modern English. It is hard to get through the first three-fourths of it (because it is incredibly repetitious and boring) but things really heat up at the end. It will blow your mind. No kidding.

Don't assume any more, and don't listen to raving maniacs like me any more. Find out for yourself.

In that second-to-last line, I referred to myself as a raving maniac to soften the harshness of accusing him of assuming he knows about Islam when he doesn't.

So anyway, try this approach and see how it works for you. If you haven't read the Quran yet, you really need to do it. Trust me on this. It will put your conversations on a whole new footing. After you read it, push people to read the Quran for themselves.

UPDATE: We have created a pledge. If you haven't read the Quran yet yourself, please take the pledge and read the Quran. If you have, use this pledge to help you convince your friends to read the Quran. Get them to take the pledge:

24 comments:

charlestonact 1:00 PM  

Love it! I started something called The Koran Project a few months ago and it goes like this - buy 2 Korans - keep one to read for yourself and give the other to a friend - with the caveat that they have to buy another Koran to give to one of their friends - and so on.

The Koran says it all! Those on the left defending Islam have not read the Koran. Challenge them to back up what they're defending by becoming knowledgeable about it.

Thanks for the Koran recommendations - I'll definitely utilize those. All the best!

René O'Deay 1:26 AM  

Do any of you know of further studies on the original language of the Koran since the Charles Luxemborg one in 2000? His is in German.
There is a book review of it in English which reveals simply stunning differences in the original and the version promoted by 'Uthman'. For instance, scroll down to paragraph 30 in the review, where the comparison of the supposed '72 virgins' in Paradise, turn out to be "white (grapes), (like) jewels (of crystal).”

This might be simply stunning to those martyred jihadis who are expecting virgins but get only white grapes in Paradise!

Infidel753 5:55 AM  

An excellent point. One of the most persistent memes obstructing a real understanding of the problem is the belief that violent and aggressive Islam is just a small-scale aberration, while "mainstream" Islam is a "religion of peace". Reading the Qur'ân leaves little scope for sustaining this delusion.

There are a couple of points I would add when making this suggestion to someone:

First, be sure they understand the concept of "abrogation" of earlier verses by later ones, which is how Islam deals with the problem of contradictions in the text. The Qur'ân does contain some humane passages, but they are mostly in earlier verses and are superseded by the later material calling for war against unbelievers. Also, the chapters in the official text of the Qur'ân are ordered mostly by length (longest first), not by when they were "revealed", so one can't tell which verses are earlier vs. later just by looking at the order they appear in in the text. The later (more authoritative) and more violent verses often come before the earlier and less authoritative ones, just because they're longer.

One also need to be sure the person gets an accurate translation. Some English versions are a bit sanitized to make the pronouncements less shocking to Western sensibilities. I have a version with the Arabic and English text side by side (I can read Arabic, though very laboriously), and it is interesting to see the subtle shading of the translation here and there.

Always On Watch 8:49 AM  

If they read the Qur'an, you need no longer tell them anything else about Islam.Absolutely!

Just these past few weeks, I had a student (private, post-grad) working on her choice of a research topic. She chose "Is Islam Inheretnly Violent?" Of the type who researches original sources, she waded through the Koran when she first began researching.

I didn't have to explain my own position on Islam! She understood the reality of the threat of Islam just by reading the Koran!

Civilus Defendus 9:07 AM  

I would couple this with suggesting some of the available on-line video demonstrating these verses and how for many Muslims the message of the quran is as alive and valid it was 1,000 years ago and is used to justify the culture, objectives and aggression seen today.

Jew With A View 12:14 PM  

Great post, many thanks for this helpful suggestion. I have a copy of the Qur'an and am going to follow your advice.

Thanks also to those who have pointed out that the later verses cancel out the earlier ones; in other words, the violent material is taken seriously by Muslims while the few 'peaceful' parts are invalid.

charlestonact: the 'Qur'an Project' sounds great, thanks for that tip :)

Citizen Warrior 1:11 PM  

Excellent and useful comments, all of you. For more on abrogation, readers can go here.

Ben 2:42 PM  

> Due to its length, turgidity & redundancy, most people won't plow through the Qur'an. The last statistic about this indicated that only 17% of male Muslims have read it in their own language. Only 13% of Muslimas have read it. I tried and failed twice before I finally plowed through it.
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> As I see it, people need to encounter a condensed version, just the egregious verses, with the chaff removed. It must be presented with the hadith and Shari'ah so that the pattern can be perceived. This is why I created:
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> * Know Thine Enemy[I attempted to pass a link to the Myth vs Fact series. I can't because the url got corrupted and I accidentally deleted the folder.
> * What You Need To Know About Islam> * What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims?> * ROPMA>
> What's Wrong With Islam publishes the most essential quotes in one place, linked to source. It also states and refutes the primary objections. ROPMA is a list of Tafsir titles linked to source. The titles alone should open all but the most bigoted and filtered eyes.
>
> I furnish the links so that readers can see the texts for themselves, verify them and explore them in depth. Very few follow through. For some unknown reason, someone in Pakistan, Indonesia, and other areas in Asia & Arabia has been searching for variations of Islam Exposed. Some of the searches are for web sites that no longer exist. They visit Islam Exposed.blogspot.com, but most of the visits are short, in & out in a hurry. Sometimes there are a dozen or more of these searches per day.
>
> Two of my blogs have resources posts or pages listing links to libraries and downloads. One of them seems to average about 5 hits per day. People from all over the world are seeking the Qur'an, Tafsir & Hadith. Some are even downloading Reliance of the Traveller from my site. Occasionally one of my Powerpoint presentations gets downloaded. I hope they are being spread by email.

Note: This was originally transmitted to CW by email. He requested that I post it in the comments.

Since the comment editor is not a Richedit, the html won't pass directly, so I used my ALinkMaker utility to fix up the links.

The Hilali & Khan translation includes paraphrases from tafsir to explain many verses. Fluent Arabic speakers tell me that it is 95% accurate with the following exceptions: "fight" should be kill and "Marry" should be F!!!.

Older translations may be more litteral, esp. Rodwell's; see his http://qb.gomen.org/QuranBrowser/cgi/bin/retrieve.cgi?version=rodwell&layout=auto&searchstring=009:29.

About those "grapes": 38:52. And beside them will be chaste females (virgins) restraining their glances only for their husbands, (and) of equal ages. How many grapes have given you glances? Would you eat one as old as you are? Do grapes get married and have intercourse?

See Also 56:33-37How many grapes have you seen having mammary glands?? 78:33. And young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age; They may have PHD after their names, but the meaning is Piled Higher and Deeper, nothing more. There is no guarantee of accuracy nor veracity; accept no claims, always check the context!!!

Ibn Kathir's Tafsir Who knows better: a scholar who spent his entire adult life immersed in the original texts in the original language, or a modern day polemicist?

You go to Hell if you don't go to Jihad, you go to Paradise if you are killed in battle. There you get rivers of wine, low hanging fruit always in season, all kinds of meat and you never get hung over or obese. What's the damn difference if those houris are grapes, virgins who continually grow new hymens, or baboons? Try looking at the big picture as well as the minutia.

If you know where to look in the hadith, you'll find that their butts are a mile wide, they don't sweat, urinate, menstruate or suffer headaches.

But the important fact to remember is this: Muslims are promised eternity in lush gardens for participating in genocide.

Keep your eyes on the prize!

zebulon9 6:21 AM  

Hi all
If you haven't got a lot of time then read "all islam in 2 pages" and you 'll know all that is necessary about islam
http://www.coranix.org/action/about_islam.pdf

Henrik R Clausen 2:01 PM  

And Islam has a only a few central holy books. The most central is the Qur'an.

I, ehm, disagree...

I think the most important books are the hadith. Because it explains the '5 pillars' (the Quran doesn't), because it lays out the example that Muslims are supposed to follow (Muhammad), and because it relates what Muhammad actually did in his life, providing indispensable context for the Quran. Which to a great extent is just a collections of demands on the Muslims (like "Fear, pray, pay & fight").

Of the Hadith collections, the most important to understand the life of Muhammad are Ibn Ishaq and Al-Tabari (volumes 6 through 9), because they relate the life story of Muhammad without many dubious hagiographic add-ons. Uncut - not least the Tabari version.

Understanding these leads to understanding of many things, like why Yasser Arafat used the example of Muhammad to justify not keeping his parts of the Oslo Accords.

Citizen Warrior 5:31 PM  

You make a very good point, Henrik. The Qur'an cannot really be understood without the Hadith, unless you read a version of the Qur'an that includes the relevant information from the Hadith, such as A Simple Koran.

Anonymous 8:44 PM  

It seems to me that we need to start a GIDEON SOCIETY to print and pass out copies of A Simple Koran for free or at a very reduced price like various Bible Societies do. This is important enough for this country that the books need to be sold not for profit. I have the idea, does some one have the brains to pull this off???
Jim Newcomb

Ben 3:53 AM  

Anonymous, I believe that Bill Warner has a copyright on the Simple Qur'an. You would need to purchase the rights, then arrange printing and distribution. That would require large sums of money.

There are publishing houses that sell bulk quantities for distribution. There is at least one Muslim organization distributing them in America.

CAIR had a distribution program.

In any case, it is highly unlikely that anyone would read it. You need to stir up interest first.

In the Flyers to Print section of Crusader's Armory, you will find about 20 tri-fold brochures you can print and distribute at will. They contain Qur'an and hadith quotes which would serve to stimulate curiosity.

Samuel 8:08 AM  

What is required is an enterprise to faithfully translate the Qur'an into contemporary and suitable respectful English to better reflect the colloquial idiom and impact of the original.

The impact of reading a Qur'an so readily accessible would persuade most into abandoning misconceptions that they have been morally terrorized into believing about Islam; in particular, that it is a 'religion of peace' - or to be more exact, 'peace without war'.

Citizen Warrior 1:01 PM  

Samuel, An Abridged Koran is just such a book. Very readable. And it's even short (and yet is the entire Koran).

Ben 7:26 PM  

The closest match is the Noble Qur'an translated by Hilali & Khan. They used three tafsirs to provise bracketed comments and added parenthetical cmnts. to modernize it. You can read it at the King Fahd Complex for Publishing the Holy Qur'an or download it (without footnotes) from http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/

There is a 30 mb pdf with the footnotes, the link to download it is in the Resource post at Go Burn With Muhammad.

Translating that drek is not a task for the amateur. It requires an expert knowledge of both Classical Arabic and English.

Anonymous 6:03 PM  

If I recall my history correctly, Thomas Jefferson read the Koran and sent the Marines into Tripoli. (Democrats were much more "practical" in those days.)

Anonymous 10:38 PM  

quran: 2:191
4:89
9:5
"slay the infidels wherever you find them"

a lovely little dictum, isn't it?
ibn warraq states that 9:5 cancels 124 verses of tolerance and peace.
the latter medina quran (which is violent) completely abrogates the former meccan (more peaceful) one.

Citizen Warrior 10:53 PM  

Here's the Koran's last word on non-Muslims:

http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/09/qurans-last-word-on-non-muslims.html

Anonymous 12:22 PM  

However, in the cities
of the nations the Lord your God is giving
you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything
that breathes. Completely destroy
them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites,
Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord
your God has commanded you.1
(Deuteronomy 20:10-17)

Citizen Warrior 4:27 PM  

Anonymous: Please read Why I Am Worried About Islam But Not Christianity.

Ben 5:15 PM  

Dear Anonymous,

Argumentum Tu-Quque is a diversion, not a defense. Nothing in the history of Judaism or Christianity matches the barbaric savagery of Islam which has been continuous since 623.

Muslims engaged in genocidal conquest through terrorism do so in obedience to Allah; emulating Moe. Christians thus engaged did so in contravention of the teaching & example of Jesus Christ.

Open the "Noble Qur'an" to
Surah At-Taubah Ayat 111 & 120, which define believers and tells how they earn extra chits for Allah's Celestial Bordello.

Any intelligent & moral person who comprehends those two verses will curse and condemn Islam.

Anonymous 5:01 PM  

mmm...be sure that what you are trying to do will never success ...
in fact...what you wrote may cause some people to search more about Islam...and after that entering it...
Allah says :

Indeed, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to avert [people] from the way of Allah . So they will spend it; then it will be for them a [source of] regret; then they will be overcome. And those who have disbelieved - unto Hell they will be gathered.

[This is] so that Allah may distinguish the wicked from the good and place the wicked some of them upon others and heap them all together and put them into Hell. It is those who are the losers.(Quran.8:36-37)

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and you wanna to distort the Quran by deleting some verses,,,well that is impossible..,
Allah says :

Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.(Quran.15:10)

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well,it looks that you are an intelligent person... but it seems that when you read Quran ,you doesn't focus on anything except how to find something makes Islam violent...cause if you really read it by your heart you would have discovered that it's the true religion...

Allah says:

And of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening book [from Him],

Twisting his neck [in arrogance] to mislead [people] from the way of Allah . For him in the world is disgrace, and We will make him taste on the Day of Resurrection the punishment of the Burning Fire [while it is said],

"That is for what your hands have put forth and because Allah is not ever unjust to [His] servants."
(Quran.(22:8-10)
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i hope you see the truth some day before it's too late...

Allah says :

Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah ." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]."(Quran.(3:64)
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Ben 5:46 PM  

I want everyone Muslim and Kaffir to read the Qur'an, tafsir, hadith, Sira & jurisprudence of Islam so that they will come to an accurate understanding of Islam's mission & method.

No moral and competent person will embrace Islam if he reads and rightly comprehends Islamic scripture & tradition.

We include links to Islam's canon of scripture, tradition, biography, exegesis & jurisprudence in our blog posts to make information readily available.

The texts are linked in the main menus of http://www.crusadersarmory.tk/ for the same reason

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