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If the Majority of Muslims Are Peaceloving People, Do We Really Have Anything to Worry About?

On one side of the debate, we have people who say, "The majority of Muslims are peaceloving people." The implication is that because of this, we can all just relax, because the growing presence of Muslim people in our midst is not a problem. On the other side, we have people who say Islam is a totalitarian, aggressive ideology that has already made inroads into Western countries with the aim of usurping our governments and replacing our laws with Sharia.

It's possible both sides are correct. Let me explain.

First of all, I think everyone can agree that there are a few dedicated jihadists who commit violence in the name of Islam. They are not "peaceloving people" by anyone's definition but their own. They may think of themselves as peaceloving because they think that once the whole world has submitted to the rule of Islam, the world will be at peace. But the methods they use to achieve that peace are car bombs, beheadings, and flying planes into buildings.

There are also a number of Muslims committed to forcing Sharia law on the world by rioting and the threat of riots. These are the ones who protest and riot when a Danish cartoonist publishes cartoons about Muhammad, for example. The ensuing riots killed 187 people. It is a violation of Muslim morality to draw Muhammad or to criticize him, and the violence intimidated many others in Western democracies into restraining themselves from re-publishing those cartoons, and in this way, the threat of violence enforced Sharia law on Western democracies.

The same thing happened with Draw Muhammad Day on Facebook, and with the pastor who burned a Koran. The violence and threat of violence by Muslims around the world affected the behavior of people in free countries, curtailing their freedom. The end result is the enforcement of Sharia law in Western democracies — not by changing what is written in the lawbooks, but by scaring people into doing what orthodox Muslims insist non-Muslims must do.

The people doing the rioting may, in fact, be "peaceloving people" in their daily lives in the opinion of everyone who knows them. It could be argued that everyone has a breaking point; anyone can lose their temper if the offense is great enough, and perhaps they love their Prophet or their Koran so much, that criticizing him or burning it was just too much for them to stand, so they went berserk, but really they are just normal, peaceloving Muslims in the rest of their lives.

Another sizable percentage of Muslims are dedicated to legally and nonviolently gaining concessions for Islam within Western democracies. They are pressing for halal food in public schools, pressing for Islamic limits on free speech (pressing for censorship in the media so Islam is never criticized — see some examples here). They are doing it in individual countries, and they're also doing it at the UN. The Organization of the Islamic Conference is the largest voting block in the UN and they are putting pressure on the rest of the countries to impose worldwide limits on free speech — the kind of limits Islamic law demands.

All these people working for the legal imposition of Sharia law may very well be peaceloving people.

A very large percentage of Muslims do not protest against the violent ones. Silence implies consent, usually, but they may keep silent out of fear. The violent ones are, of course, capable of violence, and peaceloving people could be afraid to speak out in protest against such violence in the name of Islam. And they may not feel that they have an ideological leg to stand on since the violence is sanctioned by Islamic doctrine and protesting against that violence is prohibited by it.

Another large percentage pay their zakat — it is a mandatory tithe to the mosque. This money is often used for charity (to help Muslims, according to Sharia law, and never to help non-Muslims). This money also sometimes goes to fund jihad. The people paying the zakat may be considered peaceloving people by most standard definitions.

Another group of Muslims are creating avenues for "Sharia finance," which also gives a certain percentage of that money to Islamic charities, some of which also fund jihad. Those who put their money in Sharia financial institutions or pay the fees could be peaceloving people, even though they are, wittingly or unwittingly, helping to finance the killing or subjugation of non-Muslims.

A sizable percentage of Muslims, according to polls, wish to have some measure of Sharia law, including things like Islamic limits on free speech and the death penalty for apostates (Muslims who leave Islam). In some places, a majority of the Muslims feel this way. But they do not commit any violence themselves and would be considered by many as peaceloving people.

When Muslims immigrate to Western democracies, they often form "enclaves" — whole areas where primarily Muslims live. The larger the number of Muslims in the area, the more hostile some of them are to the non-Muslims living there, so those non-Muslims move away. More and more Muslims move to the area until it becomes, for all intents and purposes, a small Muslim state within a Western democracy.

These enclaves are creating "no-go zones" where legitimate law-enforcement officers are reluctant to go, or where legitimate government authorities bend to the Muslims' demands (for fear of violent reprisals). There are more enclaves and no-go zones in Western democracies with every passing year in Sweden, France, Germany, and many other European countries.

Wherever Muslims gain a sizable minority, the most dedicated among them begin pushing for local manifestations of Sharia law.

But it would probably be correct to say that most of the people who move to a Muslim enclave from a Muslim country are peaceloving people. They are just families who are moving to an area where they have relatives, and they want nothing more than to raise their children and be happy.

Let us assume they don't know much about Islamic doctrine, and even if they do, they choose to quietly ignore the violent or political parts of it. They are still unwittingly helping to accomplish Islam's prime directive in many ways — they are helping those who are actively trying to convert Western democracies into Islamic states — even if they don't mean to.

Muslims around the world have lots of children. Some of them immigrate to Western democracies and go on welfare, so the raising of their children is being paid for by the non-Muslim taxpayers. But most of these people are probably not violent. They raise their children, telling them that they are Muslims and that the Koran is the word of Allah, but they don't explain to their children the political mandates of Islamic doctrine.

When the kids become teenagers, some of them are susceptible to recruitment by the more orthodox (politically active or violent) Muslims because the teenager has already been primed — a primary identity they have is "I am a Muslim" and the recruiter only has to say, "read your Koran and discover your obligations." And so we see that second-generation Muslims in Western democracies are more likely to become jihadists than their parents, even though their parents are peaceloving people. The young recruits may also be peaceloving at heart but feel pressured by the obligations Allah requires of them.

This is another way peaceloving Muslims are unwittingly helping jihadists accomplish their mission.

Another couple of groups I should mention are Muslim leaders and oil billionaires. There are quite a few prominent Muslim leaders who exhort their followers to pursue Islam's prime directive. These are not isolated leaders with little influence and few followers. These are heads of state and influencial people with huge numbers of followers (read more about them here).

And there are Muslim billionaires (primarily Saudi Wahhabis) who are pouring their money into building mosques and madrassas all over the world. They fund 90 percent of the world's Islamic institutions. Unfortunately, they are promoting Wahhabism, which is a branch of orthodox Islam — dedicated to jihad; dedicated to Islam's prime directive; dedicated to eliminating all democracies and establishing Islamic law for all people. This is not as impossible as it sounds. The world is far more Islamic today than it was even 20 years ago.

These oil billionaires have built and maintain most of the mosques in the United States and Canada, for example, and 80 percent of these mosques are actively promoting jihad (read more about that here). Promoting the violent overthrow of the government by jihad or any other means is against the law, but it is overridden by the protection of religious freedom. Because the jihad they preach is not extraneous to their religious teachings, but inherent in them, freedom of religion has protected them.

The oil billionaires and the Muslim leaders may have never done anything violent in their lives, and may only want a peaceful Islamic world, so they may be "peaceloving people" by most peoples' definitions.

One final idea we should consider is that it doesn't take a majority to cause serious trouble, which means that if the majority of Muslims are peaceful, it would be irrelevant (read more about that here).

So let's get back to our original question: If the vast majority of Muslims are peaceloving people, do non-Muslims really have anything to worry about?

Yes we do.

Citizen Warrior is the author of the book, Getting Through: How to Talk to Non-Muslims About the Disturbing Nature of Islam and also writes for Inquiry Into Islam, History is Fascinating, and Foundation for Coexistence. Subscribe to Citizen Warrior updates here. You can send an email to CW here

33 comments:

  1. Anonymous1:01 AM

    There are many non-moslems who don't need to worry because they have either willingly or unwilingly integrated with moslems, either out of choice, convenience or out of no choice or out of socalled personal enrichment.
    It is us disadvantaged minority nonbelievers who have nothing with common with moslems, who have seen their true nasty colours and who have to live uneasily with their inconsistent islamic culture, have something to worry about.

    WLIL

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  2. Anonymous5:38 AM

    a peacful muslim spoke this story and said this is Mohammed and not the one described by haters. He is peaceful and had peaceful taquiyaa story!:

    Telling the truth is a very good habit. If you always speak the truth, you can save yourselves from lots of trouble!

    Here is the story of a man, who did a lot of bad things, but his promise to tell the truth saved him.This is a true story, so read it carefully.

    Once a man came to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and said, “Oh Prophet of Allah, I have many bad habits. Which one of them should I give up first?”

    The Prophet said, “Give up telling lies first and always speak the truth.” The man promised to do so and went home.

    At night the man was about to go out to steal. Before setting out, he thought for a moment about the promise he made with the Prophet. “If tomorrow the Prophet asks me where have I been, what shall I say?

    Shall I say that I went out stealing? No, I cannot say that. But nor can I lie. If I tell the truth, everyone will start hating me and call me a thief. I would be punished for stealing.”

    So the man decided not to steal that night, and gave up this bad habit.

    Next day, he felt like drinking wine, when he was about to do so, he said to himself, “What shall I say to the prophet if he asks me what did I do during the day? I cannot tell a lie, and if I speak the truth people will hate me, because a Muslim is not allowed to drink wine.”

    And so he gave up the idea of drinking wine.



    In this way, whenever the man thought of doing something bad, he remembered his promise to tell the truth at all times. One by one, he gave up all his bad habits and became a good Muslim and a very good person.

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  3. Angela3:04 AM

    Great post! well done.

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  4. really? don't makemelaugh.
    But Citizen Warrior and allof the rest of you should read this very informative article:
    'One of our readers, an anthropologist of sorts, sent in this After Action Report on the experiential effects of his participation in the Friday prayers at a mosque in his city on the West Coast.'
    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/06/kinetic-effects-of-prayer-in-islam.html
    Friday Prayers often lead to mass mayhem. ever wondered why? get all the clues.

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  5. Anonymous1:41 PM

    More from the brilliant Raymond Ibrahim.

    Here is an interview by FrontPageMag.com:

    http://frontpagemag.com/2011/06/28/the-brutal-mind-of-al-qaeda%E2%80%99s-new-boss/

    Ibrahim, fluent in Arabic, leaves us with no illusions about the new Al Qaeda boss.

    Also, no illusions about the intent of Islamists.

    Peace loving people!?

    The Politically Correct and the Western Left need to wake up and realise that their heads will roll as well once they have advantaged Global Jihad sufficiently.

    I can almost comprehend the do-good Politically Correct - but how Western Leftists can delude themselves after the unspeakable atrocities performed by "Holy Warriors" against Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan is beyond comprehension.

    Aided by the West and supported by Doctors Without Borders, those "Holy Warriors" must surely consider us the biggest fools in history!

    And deservedly so!

    Now we are helping them be rid of Qaddafi at our own expense.

    Oil rich Qatar, the most cunning Islamic nation on the Planet, is hardly contributing to the expense of bombing Qaddafi after egging us on, yet they are already marketing the oil of "liberated" Libya!

    With its Al Jazeera, and the abundance of useful idiots like Fisk and Chomsky and Vaughan Smith contributing they have created the illusion of being a leading human rights nation!!!

    As Dark as it is, their Confusion of the West is perversely brilliant!

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  6. Anonymous5:17 AM

    The number 10 is a useful number to explore the perversity of Political Correctness.

    When Israeli commandos landed on the Gaza Aid Flotilla last year and were set upon with pipes and fists, they tragically killed about 10 activists to save their lives. In that moment of fear the human body is hard wired to react for survival.

    The whole Islamic world went up in a roar, and so did most of the Planet to contend with it.

    Months before however a party of 10 (eight western NGO workers and two Muslim drivers) were attacked in North Eastern Afghanistan,

    Amongst them were women, one of them a waif of a doctor by the name of Karen Woo, due to be wed on her return to the UK.

    These workers were executed cold bloodedly, with guns blasting away their brains on the side of some God forsaken road.

    One Muslim was also killed, the other begged for his life, praising Allah and The Prophet.

    The Taliban claimed responsibility immediately!

    The ‘peace loving’ Islamic World hardly said boo and a few Western governments did some wrist slapping.

    Strangely, oddly sensing that perhaps it was too much (anyone recall the hostage taking of children by crazy Islamists in the Caucuses) the Taliban withdrew the claim after a few days.

    But the Politically Correct and the Islamic World and the Western Left mostly had little if anything to say.

    However, the Taliban have just attacked a hotel in Kabul, deliberately seeking guests and killing about 10 … the count is now up to eleven.

    These are all Afghans, mostly civilians, and no foreigners.

    The Taliban have proudly claimed credit for this deliberate targeting of civilians!!!

    No ICC arrest warrants will be issued, Wael Ghonim will have nothing to say, no days of Rage will be called for by the Islamic world, the Fisks, Vaughan Smiths, Assanges, Chomskys, and Naomi Kleins in their celebrity olive skinned fashion adorned bodies will have nothing to say.

    The Taliban now know of course that nothing will emit from the Mouths of the Politically Correct, nor of their fellow bedmates of the Western Left.

    Just Nothing … only the Silence of Hypocrisy!

    As I said, the number 10 is a useful number to explore the perversity of Political Correctness.

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  7. Anonymous8:22 AM

    Dear Rene,

    Eastern religions like Jainism, Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism have none of the blood and gore advocated by the 'God of Abraham'.

    Remarkably they can in many instances be in harmony with quantum physics, super string theory, calabi-yau dimensions and the physics of black holes.

    As an atheist I can still appreciate the above Eastern religions for their humanity, compassion - and theories about the Universe that are not LAUGHABLY child-like as in "Abraham's God".

    Whilst Christians and Jews have mostly moved on from the idiocy of literal interpretations of these barbaric, primal and truly LAUGHABLE creational gumff delusions, Muslims cling to this total and absurd rubbish, the males especially looking forward to Eternal Orgasm with 72 Virgins! What complete and total junk! In the 21st Century!

    Scoff at the Chinese and Indians as much as you want but diseased as we are by Political Correctness and the Worship of Che Guevara-like demi-gods by our naive Western Left compatriots you will have to thank these two nations in decades to come for not being subjugated by Islam!

    Regards
    Anonymous

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    1. Anonymous4:04 AM

      Of course, bring me some dark matter, you know that imaginary undetectable stuff in the sky science made up when they couldn't account for the expansion rate of the universe, so are you a string theory or loop quantum gravity kind of guy/gal? Are they both right? Or is one a complete load of crap that needs a PhD to understand even though its wrong? Because math doesnt lie right? Oh wait.. You do know many amazing scientists are Christians right? Wernher von braun, oh hold we put men on the moon, Sir Isaac Newton, uh oh laws of motion and gravity, Louis pasteur whoa put your milk down, galileo, copernicus, francis bacon, this list could go on and on, are you living in a nation founded on Christianity? You know...the wealthiest and most scientifically advanced and peaceful nations on earth...because Christians are so backwards right? You like the idea the first cellular life just formed from dirt and water? With the ability to procreate, interact with the environment and then recode itself with improvements? And then be left unguided for hundreds of millions of years to form perfect multicellular life forms of amazing beauty, layers of consciousness, emotions, no redundancies, you're just an amazing formation of matter, no soul, just a smart monkey and everything fades to black when you die? Build me a cell, use any lab equipment you like, I want you to build me some fully functional DNA strands, chromosomes, fully sequenced to grow into a custom life form, you get nothing but the base amino acids as your building material, oh you couldn't even force it to happen in a lab? You know what, spare me your laughable, bleak and meaningless view of Christianity, I mean Christ came here to spread love, compassion, charity, hope and good will to all of mankind, how dare he right? 2000 years later his words live on, without being forced on anyone through violence, he always will be the way, the truth and the life.

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  8. Anonymous11:55 AM

    Hopefully the West will have learnt some final lessons regarding the futility of spreading democracy and rationality in the ‘peace loving’ Islamic lands.

    Iraq is a total failure and we have lost too many Western lives seeking to enlighten people who believe in barbaric testaments of the 7th Century.

    Afghanistan with its double-dealing criminal head of state is also a failure. How did we get caught up with that decrepit fraud of Karzai with his silly coloured mantle that he drapes over his shoulders as he lies to us 7 x 24 x 365.

    As soon as Western forces are out of there that god-forsaken desert will return to the Stone Age.

    ‘Adulteresses’ will be buried up to their necks in a pit and religious zombies will throw stones at the pristine dna manifestations that all of us humans are. Eons of finely tuned, nurtured DNA will be crushed into a bloody mess for some irrational 'morality'.

    Such is the Cosmological Sacrilege of that Mad Religion, its fictitious ‘god’ and its war lord prophet!

    After squandering our resources in Libya thanks to the deceitful manipulations of that human rights joke of a spit of sand called Qatar, we will finally learn the lesson of abandoning Islamic lands and just letting them get on with imposing their Hell on Earth over their zombified citizens. (Of course we would also need to get rid of western anti-free market oil imperialists who use government regulation to stop competition from alternative fuels!)

    Maybe we can land one last intentionally launched Tomahawk on the Clown that is Qaddafi and turn our backs on that sorry primal part of the world.

    Wael Ghonim and his illusionary promise of the ‘Arab Spring’ will engage our diseased Politically Correct western compatriots and their naïve if well intentioned leftist allies.

    Hopefully Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore will eventually be banished to Afghanistan, along with Fisk & Co. That would surely be poetic justice!

    Naomi Klein too – she will just have to watch out that she does not get put into a pit and stoned – with her looks and her fame and male DNA fawning all over her she is vulnerable to temptation. Best that she commits to celibacy!

    I am curious however as to why Muslims are allowing the non-Muslim Vaughan Smith to sleep with his Muslim Nato liberated Kosovo wife? Surely that is not allowable – an Infidel Male sexually penetrating a Female !? That would be like a Black Man being with a White Woman in Apartheid South Africa – the boere (Afrikaans males) would have made mampoer (moonshine) of him!

    As Vaughan Smith considers ISAF medivac choppers fair game to shoot down it would seem appropriate that his sexual relationship with his wife not be left unpunished. If Azaaz petitions against a fatwa on him for such a sin I might just not sign it – well I will try not to sign it – perhaps someone can help me become a barbarian too? Okay, I will sign it – but I too want to be a barbarian one day!

    Mind you we should feel sorry for Vaughan Smith – he is hosting Assange in his English castle and we know what a Lady’s Man Assange can be. Now that could be poetic justice without blood and gore ...

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  9. Anonymous7:13 AM

    Rene's post on the Gates of Vienna article is an excellent pointer.

    I re-include it here for convenience:

    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/06/kinetic-effects-of-prayer-in-islam.html

    That Mohammed may have been a political/military genius, albeit an evil one, is not in contention.

    As the article points out many of the fatalities in soldiering in those times were due to dysentery.

    What better way to keep your fighting men in shape than insisting on personal hygiene!?

    As a religious ritual!

    Then allow them rape and plunder - and you have fighting fit men with incentive.

    If you die in battle you acquire 72 virgins for your eternal orgasmic pleasure, and your brother warriors will look after your wife and family.

    Hence the value of polygamy.

    Good article to point us to Rene.

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  10. Anonymous9:37 AM

    That peace loving nation called Pakistan (although Pathetikstan is more appropriate) is busy seeking a greater alliance with China.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/417a48c4-a34d-11e0-8d6d-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss#axzz1Qs5wZzWz

    It is a sign of inferiority that it is still seeking a Big Brother - its arch enemy across the border, India, has become an Economic Giant whilst the religiously diseased Pakistan is a cess pit, albeit a nuclear one.

    But let it have its Big Brother in China.

    The Chinese will be resistant to the mind disease of Political Correctness, and they have been there and done it all as far as being Left is concerned.

    Tens of millions of corpses later thanks to Mao & Co they are not naive idealists like our Western Left compatriots.

    Pakistan will find it has a Big Brother indeed - one who will not hesitate to crush it if ever dares to incite China's 30 million muslims (thankfully only 3% of their population) to subjugate China to Islam.

    May the Force be with China!

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  11. Anonymous8:09 AM

    More on the 'peace loving' Islamic nations ...


    On average as many civilian deaths occur every Friday’s ‘Day of Rage’ in Syria, Turkey’s neighbour, as the number of Turkish activist deaths on board one of the Gaza Aid Flotilla ships last year.

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/syrian-forces-leave-28-dead-after-day-of-protests-20110702-1gwp9.html

    Turkey is certainly concerned about this – but is hardly making the noise it made last year over the Gaza Aid Flotilla incident.

    Most of the Islamic world is quiet as well – where they raged for months after the Gaza Aid Flotilla incident last year.

    Syria has by now killed far more civilians – and deliberately – than Israel’s collateral damage with its operations in Gaza in the ‘limbo’ period between Bush and Obama.

    The Islamic World is not demanding UN investigations into the war crimes of Syria!

    Neither is it demanding that Nato bomb Syria – after all Turkey is a Nato ally! Easie peasie!

    Qatar has nothing to say – but then it is the Ultimate Cesspit of Hypocrisy!

    Fisk has a few things to say but does not have the journalistic objectivity to explicitly acknowledge that Israel’s collateral damage is now far less than Syria’s targeted killing of civilians. But then Fisk is just a full-blooded anti-Semitic using the ‘Palestinian Issue’ as his cover.

    Wael Ghonim? Quiet as a mouse. No campaign for going viral on Facebook and Twitter over the Syrian atrocities.

    And he will probably get a Nobel Peace Prize with his line (in natural taqiyyaspeak) that his inspiration was Gandhi! An Infidel as an inspiration! What total rubbish coming from a muslim!

    The difference of course is that Syria is anti-West … hence the Quiet Turkey and the Silent Wael Ghonim.

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  12. Anonymous10:30 AM

    I read the early comment about the "Good Muslim" not telling a lie & becoming a good muslim.... THERE'S A CATCH... In the koran it's stated that if a muslim lies to an infidel or a hebrew, etc., IT'S NOT A LIE, DOES NOT COUNT... so therefore, how can one of us trust what they say???

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  13. It's perfectly all right to lie if it advances Islam or protects a Muslim. So we cannot trust what they say.

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  14. I consider this Koranic verse, whenever I hear about treaties discussed within the Islamic world :-

    9.001 "Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty. "

    Note, this is the First verse of chapter 9.
    I wonder how many international ambassadors know of its existence?

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  15. And Sura 9 is essentially the last word on how to deal with non-Muslims:

    http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/08/verse-of-sword.html

    http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/09/qurans-last-word-on-non-muslims.html

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  16. Anonymous5:05 AM

    stop the islamization of the world! they willnever bring peace evolution and prosperity,go back to your poor and full of wars country,because that's all you can do!

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  17. This is the best article on the subject that I have seen and I will share it.
    The West is challenged to re-examine our basic values. What do we mean by Freedom of Religion, Freedom of speech and tolerance?
    Is it OK to teach children hate and violence at religious schools?
    The Saudis spend billions exporting free religious schools to the rest of the world.

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  18. Anonymous5:48 AM

    The majority of Moslims are peaceful, despite their religion, in exactly the same way that the majority of the millions who joined the Nazi Party were peaceful in the 1930s.

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  19. Anonymous11:50 PM

    If less than .01% of Muslims committing violent actions means Islam as a whole promotes violence then that means atheism promotes violence due to Stalin and Mao murdering millions of religious people. Atheism promotes violence due to the school shooters almost every year now that are very often atheists. You either generalize everywhere or don't generalize at all.

    it's also funny how you mention how silence is support. Do you expect Muslim people to go out in the streets and yell and cry every time some violent Muslim does something crazy? Even if peaceful Muslims were to do such a thing, do you honestly think the media would even bother reporting something so silly. You honestly sound like a closeted racist.

    Why don't I see peace loving black people condemning the actions of the violent black people that rape, kill, or steal? Are the peace loving black people supporting the violent ones since they are silent?

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  20. The focus here is on the written Islamic doctrine, and it most definitely promotes intolerance and violence.

    There isn't any standard, recognized atheist doctrine as far as I know, and if there were, I doubt that it would encourage atheists to kill non-atheists.

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  21. One might suppose that Islamic countries would show the world how peace-loving muslims live together. Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Peaceful societies with peaceful muslims?

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    1. April9:27 AM

      Agreed if Islam was the religion of peace the ME would be the safest and most peaceful pace on the planet - muslims even hate each other

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  22. Anonymous7:59 AM

    Political correctness, has become the greatest weapon in the moslem invasion and conversion to Islam of the world,,, and we have given it to them.

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  23. I totally agree with you

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  24. Walter Sieruk10:27 AM

    As for the majority of Muslims being "peace-loving people" OK that might be true.They are also the people who many Westerners call "Moderate Muslims." In contrast to the violent jihadist Muslims who many Westerners call Radical Muslims." On this topic it should be made clear that the terms “Radical Muslim” and “Islamic extremist” in contrast to the term “Moderate Muslim” are actually Western terms and not that well known in the Islamic Middle East. This is because what In the Islamic mindset in the Muslim Middle East as well as in Indonesia and other Muslim controlled country what the non-Muslims of the Western nations view as “radical and “extremist” the Muslims of those places in the world see as “Normal” and even Devout and committed to the Cause of Islam”. Likewise they view those who Westerns see as “Moderate Muslims” those of the Islamic worldview and non-devout and non –committed Muslims. The violent jihadists even see them as “hypocrites.” Therefore, this explains the jihadist chant of those jihad-minded Muslims in different Islamic terror organizations. When they chant out loud “Death to infidels and hypocrites.” Meaning Death to people who and not Muslims and people who are non- jihadist Muslims.

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  25. Walter Sieruk11:20 AM

    Part of this above article reads that a "sizable percentage of Muslims are dedicated to legally and nonviolently gain concessions for Islam with Western democracies. This sly insidious ,bit by bit method of political subversion for the advancement of Islam called the Stealth jihad.

    What is known as the Stealth jihad otherwise called the Muslim method of Islamic Gradualism to enact Sharia law in America. In contrast to the way of the violent jihad or also called the militant jihad .This non-violent form of the jihad for Islam is a very sly, insidious, subtle and deceptive way of working for the advancement of Islam.
    This Muslim scheme for achieving the goal of the Islamic agenda is as, many times, as subtly effective as it is demonically clever. Furthermore, this Islamic gradualism, in some ways, is very similar to the instruction printed in the book entitled THE ART OF WAR by Sun Tzu. Which reads “At first, then, exhibit the coyness of a maiden, until the enemy gives you an opening; afterwards emulate the rapidity of a running hare, and it will be too late for the enemy to opposes you”

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  26. Excellent analysis and right to the point. The number of Muslims entering our societies must be kept to a manageable level if we wish to maintain our intellectual freedoms. Until Islam itself becomes modern and loses the savage medieval outlook described in its koran, we cannot relax our guard. We must also be aware of the craven 'post-modern' peddlers of white guilt and similar conceits who rush to enable them whenever an opportunity to weaken our society's morality presents itself.

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  27. Firstly, what percentage of that "majority" peace-loving portion is fully that! When asked specific questions about Islam, one might be surprised by their belief and obedience to things the Western World considers wrong.

    Secondly, Islam is very well organized and financed, and most of the peace-lovers are irrelevant to counter-act radical Islam.

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  28. Walter Sieruk3:15 PM

    There is a non-violent ,bloodless peaceful type of jihad.. This type of jihad is a different method of gaining power for the advancement of Islam. This is the Stealth Jihad. As seen in the following example of the insidious growing power of Islam even in an American hospital

    Having had a security guard position at the hospital that I live in, during the year, 2005 a rather odd thing happened. One day the guard both at the hospital parking building a group of Muslim men in one car stopped at my both and told me he is a doctor, I know, somewhat , and always recognize them. This Muslim who said he was a doctor hospital showed me no ID yet he entered the parking lot . I immediately regretted not asking to see his ID. This Muslim doctor and in Muslim friends must have sharp intellects because he and one of the friend most have noticed a look of regret and worry of my face because the Muslim doctor with one of his friends walked over to me and asked “Do you have a problem with us ?” To that question I replied “We are under yellow alert ” So then that Muslim doctor did showed me his ID and pointed his finger at me a gave me lecture for he said “You may ask to see my ID but you committed racial profiling and racial discrimination against us, this is illegal .” To this it needs to be made clear that that he did ask me a question and what did he want me to do, lie?. I have commit a politically incorrect “thought crime” only and didn’t commit discrimination because attempt stop them from entering that parking building and my worry was religion based and not race based . of course that’s also looked down on. It’s a good thing that I didn’t think of saying “Aren’t you glad to be living in America because in this nation because you have so many laws to hide behind?” Still his friend said to me “What about Timothy Mc Veigh and the Oklahoma bombing?” and “What is our name I’m going to report you.” The whole incident was intense but it did blow over. Maybe God was watching out for me?
    Now I’m a bit old and retired, nevertheless in this year of 2018 I know a young man who still works at that hospital as security guard and me informed me that no who comes to visited a friend who is a patent is allowed to wear a “Never Forget ,September 11, 2001. any Tee shirt with anything on it about Islam that is not positive the Security officer are required to walk over to that person and say “Muslim are here also you must leave this hospital .” One day this very guard did take a chance and wear a “Never Forget September 11, 2001” button and one Muslim doctor told him “You must be objective while on duty as a guard” and then went the bosses and the Security office and complained he was offended by that button. So the bosses caved in and told him never on the job to war that button again or he’d be fired that to too “political” As for being “objective” as a , guard ? I say Bull! That’s saying that a guard can’t or should not be able to understand the different between right and wrong on duty. A guard that can’t or will not understand the different between right and wrong would be a useless person for Homeland Security. What more, this madness shows the Islamic power even in an American hospital. This is absurd, for this is America and not Pakistan or Egypt.

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  29. April9:26 AM

    Other great websites in the fight against Islamicide is Barenaked Islam, the Geller Report and The Voice of Europe

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  30. Thanks, CW, for a very well written article about islam. The biggest danger as I can see is the muslim who somehow manages to convince himself/herself that islam is peaceful, and tries to convince us of the same. But saying very little against their own kind who have supposedly misinterpreted islam.
    And worse of all, fooling a lot of non muslims, especially in missionary work. A clear and ever present danger.

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