tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post7313539691146164166..comments2024-02-18T23:52:40.165-08:00Comments on Citizen Warrior: A Support Group for Citzen Warriors Who Have Lost Friendships Over Islam?Citizen Warriorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-44360823674694766392011-05-10T10:38:42.031-07:002011-05-10T10:38:42.031-07:00The difficulty, as I see it, is the deliberate use...The difficulty, as I see it, is the deliberate use made by Muslims of our cognitive dissonance. Islam is antithetical to democracy or to being criticised and yet it has not hesitation in using our democratic laws against us and to advance the da'wah. Consequently it is not beset by the sort of cognitive dissonance we suffer from when, for example, having been brainwashed into political correctness, we are presented by Islam with behaviours or messages which are not in the slightest politically correct <b>but we are prevented by our own political correctness from arguing with</b>.<br /><br />Islam's treatment of women and <i>kufar</i> is but one example. When decent people complain about Islam's supremacist attitude they are accused of not being politically correct, although their complaints are well-founded. <br /><br />This cognitive dissonance is deliberately compounded by taqiyya and lip-service to interfaith or outreach progammes and the old guff about Islam being the religion of peace. <br /><br />How to achieve consonnance? Grasp the nettle firmly and declare double standard "do as I say not as I do" wherever you see it. Yell from the rooftops every time you hear about or witness Muslim aggression in the name of Islam that the <b>Islamic King is butt naked</b> and be at pains to point out why. If enough of us do this in the world, eventually the supremacist influence of Islam will be eroded.Babsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-8533629952445408802011-05-04T11:53:32.093-07:002011-05-04T11:53:32.093-07:00Someone emailed this:
I think this is a very good...Someone emailed this:<br /><br />I think this is a very good idea. I personally don't care if my friends don't want to listen to me much or think I am crazy. Slowly, I believe , I am convincing some of them. But if I cannot penetrate their thick skulls then I'm just as glad to let them go because quite frankly they're idiots who are too stupid to open their eyes to reality and I prefer to have friends who will open their eyes and see what's going on. So, rather than needing support for lost friends, I think forming a group like this is a good idea to make new friends and perhaps get more accomplished with strength in numbers. What's your idea about this? We could even have occasional meetings a few times a year to discuss projects, etc.Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-55807476574935051932011-04-29T14:38:16.518-07:002011-04-29T14:38:16.518-07:00Someone made this comment on CW's FB page:
My...Someone made this comment on CW's FB page:<br /><br />My cousin deleted me from her fb Friends list as a result of a conversation over Islam. Frustratingly, many people have the same perspective as my cousin...they don't actually know a darn thing about Islam's history, have never bothered to read a transliteration of the Quran, and aren't willing to learn, but they know far more about it than I do. Ironically, if Islam, God forbid, overruns the US, she and her liberal friends will be among the first in line for some serious trouble.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07653370306514091899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-61573992866702727222011-04-29T10:47:28.151-07:002011-04-29T10:47:28.151-07:00Would you be interested in a support group? Have y...Would you be interested in a support group? Have you lost family members?<br /><br />Or would you be interested in helping others from what you have learned? Or learning from others about how to better approach these kinds of conversations? If so, you can participate here:<br /><br />http://talkaboutislamamongnonmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/09/few-instructions.htmlCitizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-88266957511159709592011-04-29T10:33:26.139-07:002011-04-29T10:33:26.139-07:00It's a non-starter talking to any meember of m...It's a non-starter talking to any meember of my family, and most of my friends, about the current onslaught of islam in the West.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-78488445280122807542011-04-27T21:00:08.783-07:002011-04-27T21:00:08.783-07:00Thank you for this service! People don't want ...Thank you for this service! People don't want to see me coming, it seems. However, I cannot hide my head in the sand. It's disingenuous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-9764385051451006702011-04-27T10:37:04.883-07:002011-04-27T10:37:04.883-07:00I was talking to a few tennis acquaintances about ...I was talking to a few tennis acquaintances about a neighbor who is a retired minister and who serves as a volunter at a local Universalist church and got myself into a little trouble as a result.One of the players didn't want to get into religion as she believes religion is responsible for most wars. Another player who was wearing a large gold cross on a necklace made a deragatory statement about my being an agnostic Deist as a result of my mocking Bill O'Reilly's statement that God created Hell as a way of controlling behavior of mankind.<br />I don't have any friends who are muslims but I am sure they would not be friendly to me as are religious people of other Faiths.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-32955846609223054242011-04-26T18:40:23.760-07:002011-04-26T18:40:23.760-07:00I had too many unpleasant encountered with malay-i...I had too many unpleasant encountered with malay-islamic people in their malay-islamic country dominated country, in nonislamic dominated asian countries and in other islamic asian/middleeast countries and was discriminated by malsy-islamic people from a very a young age and therefore I was and am not surprise to read about their extreme islamic nastiness, though I was shaken abit by proislamic extreme abusiveness and irrationally aggressive replies from proislamics in certain blogssites. <br /><br />WLILAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-13819909274018033292011-04-26T10:34:03.723-07:002011-04-26T10:34:03.723-07:00Someone emailed this:
A support group would help ...Someone emailed this:<br /><br />A support group would help people cope with friend losses but best would be if speaking the truth about islam became mainstream behaviour rather than a fringe activity.<br /><br />Truth should have that power but sadly, in today's world, it doesn't.<br /><br />Where i live, many people know and acknowledge muslims' violent and irrational behaviour.<br />Most acknowledge that islam is a scourge to humans everywhere, but no one speaks up because of extreme political correctness.<br />Media bias plays a huge role in this perspective.<br /><br />Anyone who speaks up against islam is branded a racist, a bigot or worse by our media.<br /><br />I wish there was some way in which speaking the truth about islam becomes acceptable in society.Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-49177526398601317752011-04-26T07:25:23.636-07:002011-04-26T07:25:23.636-07:00I think the support group is a good idea. I have h...I think the support group is a good idea. I have had to accept that amongst my friends, family and peers are dhimwits and PCs and worse still leftards seeing Islam as an "anti-imperialist" ally. Somehow the latter are unable to associate the collapse of the Soviet Union with the misguided assistance the West gave to the 'holy warriors' (although 'satanic warriors' would be the accurate description for these power seeking religio-zombies). Rather to have succumbed to the Soviet Union and Maoist China than to live under Islam. We may still rue the day that we brought the Soviet Union to its knees. However, to be part of the Resistance Against Islam means the loss of relationships. Seeing friends, family and peers sinking in the Politically Correct Quicksand, their eyes mesmerised by the Spell of the Islamic Kaa is indeed traumatic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-63898697005040701732011-04-26T06:33:02.490-07:002011-04-26T06:33:02.490-07:00there needs to be, also, support groups specifical...there needs to be, also, support groups specifically in certain communities: like the jewish community, or the evangelical community. these more specific groups can be more helpful as they understand the backgrounds and environments better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-76614269603410105822011-04-26T06:27:53.543-07:002011-04-26T06:27:53.543-07:00yes yes yes, there needs to be support groups not ...yes yes yes, there needs to be support groups not just online but in person all over the country. it is terrible what is happening. people become outcasts in their own families. people risk job loss or employment networking loss if perceived as being on the 'bad guys' side, meaning republicans. please create a network and then have all the conservative blogs publicize it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-21955279177465046732011-04-26T05:10:38.852-07:002011-04-26T05:10:38.852-07:00I certainly like the idea of a support network. It...I certainly like the idea of a support network. It can be very lonely on this battlefield. I don't much favour the idea of getting together to lick our wounds and mourn lost friendships. We need to be strengthening the new friendships that will undoubtedly form on the basis of our shared vision and determination. If only there were a way of helping us to identify fellow warriors! Can't we come up with some subtle form of identification that will mark us out to one another without giving us away too readily to those who would persecute us?<br /><br />Malta_1565Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-3136401685449452092011-04-26T00:39:14.174-07:002011-04-26T00:39:14.174-07:00On the Citizen Warrior facebook page, someone wrot...On the Citizen Warrior facebook page, someone wrote:<br /><br />I met a "friend" online who, when we began to discuss Islam, wanted me to admit that Christianity is just a barbaric as Islam. When I refused to admit this, and when I refused to condemn Christ, she began by saying that the bible treats women just as badly as the Koran. She tried to say that Islamic women in some European countries during the middle-ages, like Spain, were treated better than their European counter parts. When I asked her how she thought Muslim woman compared to Christian women today, she moved on to slavery. She pointed to the African slave trade to justify her claim that Christianity is just as barbaric as Islam. When I showed her a you-tube video showing that Muslims were worse slave traders than Christians ever were (at least Christians didn't castrate their male slaves), and when I showed her the Tears of Jihad article showing that over 270 million innocent men, women and children have been killed/enslaved by Islam in the past 1,400 years, and when I pointed out that Christians who commit acts of violence aren't following the example set by Christ, but Muslims who commit acts of violence are following the example set by Mohammed, she went beserk, called me a fucking loon, said I need a rubber room, and told me to stop visiting nutjob online websites to justify my irritational fears. Irrational fears? Does that make me an Islamaphobe? I hate it when defenders of Islam say Christians/Christianity are just as violent as Muslims/Islam. I hate it when defenders of Islam refuse to look at history/current events in a logical, impassioned way and reach the rational conclusion that Islam is not a religion of peace. How many people like her are there in America?<br /><br />Oh yeah, she also threatened to report me to the FBI, Facebook, and my internet service provider for hate crimes. Since when is telling the truth a hate crime?<br /><br />Someone else wrote:<br /><br />altho I personally have not lost any friends, i do know that the more we voice the truth, the more we will upset! I think a group would be good idea.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07653370306514091899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-18221059805254618242011-04-25T23:27:16.103-07:002011-04-25T23:27:16.103-07:00THANK YOU ALL for your input!!!
I am leaning hea...THANK YOU ALL for your input!!! <br /><br />I am leaning heavy towards YES, there is a need.<br /><br />CW, I so got strung out doing so many different things today I did not get around to making the post and testimony at my sites, but I will tomorrow. <br /><br />THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!!!Damon Whitsellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17303215898721019424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-64579992665556465462011-04-25T23:20:20.251-07:002011-04-25T23:20:20.251-07:00Someone emailed this:
I haven't had experienc...Someone emailed this:<br /><br />I haven't had experience with loosing friendships over this but it should talked about ,people don't realize that the muslims are trying to take over this country,and it's time to wake up before it's too late. How many banks are already shariah compliant?Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-89771787351515849962011-04-25T21:44:17.445-07:002011-04-25T21:44:17.445-07:00A great idea. For some, losing a friendship long ...A great idea. For some, losing a friendship long cultivated is a tragedy. <br /><br />Jim HornJim Hornhttp://www.dididawdawdidi.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-52679817588168949112011-04-25T19:51:27.961-07:002011-04-25T19:51:27.961-07:00My hubby & I have family & some friends. T...My hubby & I have family & some friends. They were mostly sheeplebut a few caught us off guard. Heck, 1 of my kids' godparents told me they were hardcore NY democrats that supported gun control (the man of this godparent pair was in the military... explain that one?) & thought we should part ways. WTF?<br />I can't understand how rational people don't see what's happening?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-14254027146019712602011-04-25T12:30:23.945-07:002011-04-25T12:30:23.945-07:00Someone emailed this:
I have no need for a suppor...Someone emailed this:<br /><br />I have no need for a support group. Perhaps because the people with whom I raise the issue are already concerned about the Islamic drive to use our democratic system to promote Sharia and dawa. My approach to Muslims is limited to those in media and/or politics. I express my wish to learn more about the ideology and ask questions which, I hope, forces them to address some unpleasant aspects of the ideology; and, the character of Mohammad. They try to deicuss something else, lie or end the excange.<br /><br />They may be polite to me; but, they are not, and cannot be, "friends". Those in desperate need of a support group, are those Muslims who would like to escape their cultural prison.Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-52140629998747335282011-04-25T12:02:56.520-07:002011-04-25T12:02:56.520-07:00One Anonymous said,,, “I have a handful of atheist...One Anonymous said,,, “I have a handful of atheist friends that are so worried about the Christians taking over (Pro-Choice and Gay Marriage discussions) that they are blind to what is really going to take away their freedoms”.<br /><br />Please tell your friends that Christians are not the only ones that are pro-choice and for maintaining marriage as a union between a man and a women. All cultures, historical and present, promote the sanctity of marriage as a social institution that maintains our society as what it is. And to not value the family is just Marxist communist doctrine perpetuated by so called Woman’s liberation. <br /><br />Western birth rates are so low that our society will implode if people do not start reproducing more. <br /><br />And that Jesus said Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. <br /><br />There is only a small portion of Christianity that subscribes to the unbiblical theology of Kingdom Now Theology and Dominion Theology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology). They do indeed wish to set up a theocracy on earth with men at the helm but most of us Christians look for the return of Jesus and follow Jesus command to Mar 12:17 b Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.Damon Whitsellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17303215898721019424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-87969425541361215942011-04-25T11:47:02.101-07:002011-04-25T11:47:02.101-07:00Hi TLW,,, I agree completely. That is why I have j...Hi TLW,,, I agree completely. That is why I have joined two local ACT! for America chapters. It will be so nice once i get close to a few like minded people. I am sure it will change my life for the better. Who wants to fly with the turkeys when you can soar with the eagles. :):):)Damon Whitsellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17303215898721019424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-84315066102131677092011-04-25T11:23:14.934-07:002011-04-25T11:23:14.934-07:00Thank you all for your comments and input.
Thank...Thank you all for your comments and input. <br /><br />Thank you River Fred for your concern but I have considered what you <br />suggested.<br /><br />I have studied everything our resident Counter-Jihad Psychologist Specialist <br />CW has said and written about and have been very tactical with all my <br />Friends and have not forced anything on anyone. <br /><br />For me I was damned the first time I spoke about Islam because my friends <br />fiancé is a relativist that thinks no judgments can be made at all and that all <br />people, cultures, ideas and things are equally true and good. <br /><br />For instance when I was told that I “wanted to kill every Muslim on the face of the earth”,, it was not because I said anything about anyone at that time but rather for making the mistake of wearing a shirt that says “some people are alive because it is illegal to kill them” in front of her. I have had the shirt for about 8 years and everywhere I go wearing it people offer to buy me drinks saying “I know people like that too”,,, because it infers that it is amazing that some people do not get killed over their stupidity. I have since realized another inherent inference to it. It is amazing to that some people do not killed for not determining good from evil and that some people are narcissistic sociopaths and Cons looking for victims. The relativist has proven this to me by losing thousand of dollars to strangers she meets in bars who give her a sob story, take advantage of her and move on to the next sucker in line. <br /><br />Things have happened like being shown a picture of pigs saying “I wish everyone was a Jew” and by me just saying Jews are not the only ones to not eat pork,, I was guilty of talking bad about Muslims in her eyes. <br /><br />On top of this my friend of 30 years, her fiancé, was very interested in learning everything he could about Islam and at one point was even telling others about its dangers,, until she called us racist. And long after I quit saying anything about Islam to either of them she was engaged in a “Damon want to kill all Muslims” smear campaign. And since what Hitler said was true, that “if you tell a lie often enough it will be believed”,, my friend and others became to believe it. <br /><br />As I told CW..<br /><br />“I have since remembered that all of Jesus's friends and family betrayed Him, most of the Signers of the Declaration Independence suffer much loss for doing so, that people die in our world everyday for nothing more than being non-muslim and all that the Bible says about how Christians are supposed to suffer and it is good for us. I know most people think of the so called "Prosperity Gospel" when they think about Christianity,,,, but the bible says very much about Christian Suffering.<br /><br />So I have since became not so depressed and quit whining so I don't need any support anymore. I have myself, my God and my integrity intact and don't really need anything else. <br /><br />But I cannot help but think about in-mature babes in Christ and non-believers and what they might be suffering for standing against Islam and them having no frame of reference to put the legal and widely acceptable persecution of Islamophobe-phobia into perspective and to be able to persevere and stay in the fight as I have. So a support group might be very needed anyway.”<br /><br />I am not looking for a place to bitch, whine or cry. I am interested in to finding out if a place is needed to “support and keep as many Wounded Citizen Warriors in the fight as possible.Damon Whitsellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17303215898721019424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-66073888155558993512011-04-25T10:51:20.611-07:002011-04-25T10:51:20.611-07:00Someone emailed this:
Those Americans who defend ...Someone emailed this:<br /><br />Those Americans who defend Muslims are completely ignorant of world history and the big part Islam has played in it. Ignorance is deadly.Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-44567854551357734832011-04-25T10:49:55.569-07:002011-04-25T10:49:55.569-07:00Someone emailed this:
CW, sounds interesting and ...Someone emailed this:<br /><br />CW, sounds interesting and helpful.Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-33014140675826965012011-04-25T10:35:28.324-07:002011-04-25T10:35:28.324-07:00I haven't lost friends but I do have some that...I haven't lost friends but I do have some that think I focusing on the negative when I talk about this. I just use the old AA thing "Come back when the pain gets bad enough." I tell them I understand it is hard to "grok" but time will tell.Gormflaith The Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16983684618780190177noreply@blogger.com