Comments on Citizen Warrior: The Terrifying Brilliance of the Islamic Memeplex

Mohamed, Can I ask you a question? How does not ...

2010-07-05T21:46:41.443-07:00

Mohamed,

Can I ask you a question? How does not including issues involving extremism within other faiths and terrorist acts committed by followers of other faiths make Citizen Warrior look like a "blinded bigot?" This is a website with one purpose, to fight Islamic Jihad, by educating people, including terrorism with an Islamic bent. He's not denying that there are are violent extremists in any other major world religion. There are already entire websites devoted solely to criticizing Christianity or Christian Conservatives (the religious right), or Christian extremism. Is anyone who does that, or something similar, acting like a bigot, just because they don't devote some of their website to criticizing other faiths as well?

Mohamed, if I was worried about any other kind of ...

2010-07-05T17:23:36.902-07:00

Mohamed, if I was worried about any other kind of extremism, I would probably write about it, but not on this blog. The only kind of "extremism" I am concerned with is Islamic, and that's what I write about. Feel free to start your own blog on other kinds of extremists.

I'm actually not even worried about extremism. I am only concerned with Islamic supremacism. I'm concerned with the implementation, by small increments, of Sharia law in the West because non-Muslims are so uneducated about basic principles of Islam that they haven't been defending themselves against this relentless encroachment.

Now, about your bigotry comment. My goal is to PREVENT bigotry by educating non-Muslims about Islam. Read more about that here: Early Prevention of Bigotry and Racism.

If you are a peace-loving Muslim and you do not want Sharia law applied in the West, please read this: Message to Peaceful Muslims.

Citizen warrior, Please include in your analysis t...

2010-07-05T15:32:27.932-07:00

Citizen warrior,
Please include in your analysis to all extremist be they Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc. That is the only way you would seem fair and not a blinded bigot as you have shown in your blog.
as the Quran says in Chapter 112 - "Keep your religion (belief) and we will keep ours"

Outstanding article. I've bookmarked it.

2010-04-11T06:21:20.458-07:00

Outstanding article. I've bookmarked it.

Great article. I would add to number 7 by explaini...

2010-02-28T02:46:11.153-08:00

Great article. I would add to number 7 by explaining how acceptance for polygamy creates a continous outer "push" in support of the meme since there aren't enough women in dar al islam to allow every muslim man to have four wives. Moreover, muslim men are specifically permitted to make wives or sexual slaves (i.e. right hand possessions) of the women of groups who have refused to submit/convert. Thus, the twin perogatives of polygamy and sexual enslavement of fallen enemies also encourage jihad and further support the meme. (The "sexual enslavement" perogtaive may have become too politically costly of late for widespread use, but it HAS seen recent application in places like Sudan. I would also argue that the abduction of coptic and hindu girls in places like Egypt and Pak, as well as the targeted rape of western women in places like Oz and the Scandi countries are a variant of this phenom.)

To Anonymous, You are either a) a liar or b) a ve...

2009-12-19T20:27:50.325-08:00

To Anonymous,

You are either a) a liar or b) a very lazy thinker. You really think those extremely specific memes apply to Christianity and Judaism? The logic implicit in your comment is "all belief systems are equally totalitarian and violent." Shall we count up the Jewish suicide bombers or the Christian countries which don't allow the building of other relgions' places of worship? Please...

-To Anonimous - It seems to me you just stumbled h...

2009-08-30T09:06:36.476-07:00

-To Anonimous -
It seems to me you just stumbled here and without trying to read or comprehend the meaning of the article above, just started slandering Israel and Jews.Meme number 6 !!!! Read that again !!!!

Great article. These same ideas can be applied to...

2009-08-10T05:59:24.135-07:00

Great article. These same ideas can be applied to any religion including Christianity. It would be excellent to see a companion piece to this one which focuses on another religion. You can also use this idea to analyze how Jews in Israel justify on a religions basis the utter harm they do in confiscating land and property of those who do not share their memeplex. In my opinion the only way to liberate ourselves from being slaves to ideas is to question not only the beliefs of others but our own most cherished ideas as well. If you find it offensive for somebody to question a set of beliefs you hold dear then you may be the slave to a memeplex yourself.

Hi again Brilliant article. I have been coming up...

2009-08-09T14:18:19.914-07:00

Hi again

Brilliant article. I have been coming up to speed with topics concerning Islam over the last few months, and have been staggered by the evil genius of psychology at play.

Whilst a first class c**t and the single biggest man-made cause of human suffering and death ever, one has to grudgingly admire Mohammed's shrewd understanding of the human mind and how to harness it in the eternal propagation of both the Arab imperialistic empire as well as his personality cult

I wonder if there is another meme at play?

Not only is Allah the one true God, but Mohammed is his last prophet

Seems very devious. Designed to ensure that no corruption of the meme could subsequently take place

That was an outstanding read – I have read and stu...

2009-04-28T12:21:00.000-07:00

That was an outstanding read – I have read and studied some about Islam to better understand “the enemy” but this is the best explanation of the threat we face. I knew most of what you wrote but wasn’t able to articulate it well; maybe now I will be more so. I agree with Kab-bin-Ashraf that it would be nice if you could write a more concise version with references – I would carry it around like an evangelist with a pocket bible! I also wonder if there is a more easily grasped (or familiar) term that could be used instead of Meme to explain the pervasiveness and persistence of Islam. Not that it’s not a good term, just a little abstract for mass consumption. I’m not well-read enough to answer this question myself.

I married into a partially Muslim family (yes there are non-practicing Muslims out there) and even though she doesn’t call herself a Muslim, she still defends the “faith” because she was raised in a Muslim country (one of the only secular ones) and thinks it is peaceful and benign and in many ways better than Christianity because unfortunately she has seen her share of Christian hypocrites. I really need to arm myself with knowledge and references well to show her and others the real truth and I hope this and your study material will help.

One more thing: Anonymous said: “There is no way a collection of alien racial groups and their corresponding assortment of heritages, cultures, beliefs and social refineries herded into the one living space, can ever form a genuine or viable nation.” I disagree with him completely, as you do but I think a better example than your use of the Marines of why he is absolutely wrong is the great nation of America. It was formed exactly by joining a collection of disparate racial and cultural groups into one (albeit giant) living space that became the most viable nation that ever existed. But this was precisely because “multiculturalism” was not practiced. Disparate cultures (and races to a lesser extent initially) either put off their former cultures completely or merged their cultures into the “new culture” of America. The over-riding loyalty and love of country (America) was not from indoctrination (without) but from an overwhelming personal and familial willingness to be a part of a great “experiment” and promise of prosperity that was the American Dream and that formed its own culture and nation. Is there such a self-indoctrinating force now? Not really – it has to be fostered as an attitude set by policy that forces incorporation into country (without the negativity of fervent nationalism). There is no new great melting pot to allow the self-joining of cultures into something new and greater anymore (OK, it could be argued that the European Union is attempting this by a gradual cross-border economic co-mingling, though with little success – and this is still not creating something necessarily new). However, great cultures can assimilate new cultures, with both benefiting from the positives aspects of each (evolution if you will).

Yes, the weak-minded practice of tolerated (or now even encouraged) multiculturalism is a huge problem as you note and we must sound the trumpet against this. Cultures allowed to exist and thrive within a sovereign nation and not become assimilated and imbued with loyalty to their new host become a cancer from within (especially Islam - and I think cancer is a more appropriate metaphor than rabies as it can also be slow and surreptitious besides being rabidly overwhelming).

I see it happening in Europe where I live and America is not far behind. Our only hope is to become strong of character and devout in national and cultural identity (again without fervency) and not PC – Australia is a perfect example – they loudly proclaim and practice a “love it or leave it” policy of immigration (and deportation). If only our leaders (and I use that term loosely) would find the moral courage and do the same. It’s up to us, the people, to loudly proclaim that that is what we want before the thought police make it entirely impossible to speak out in a non-politically correct manner….

This is an excellent article, Citizen Warrior. I'm...

2009-02-19T18:10:00.000-08:00

This is an excellent article, Citizen Warrior. I'm going to post a link to it when I post in the JihadWatch comments section.

I have a few suggestions.

One is to reduce the length of the article somewhat by organizing the memes into a smaller number of categories. If it is possible to organize these memes into about 7 categories, for psychological reasons it will be easier for people to remember them.

Second, you've obviously done your research, but I think you should add references to the relevant parts of the Islamic texts and Islamic laws that state the memes.

Third, I want to mention a specific reference regarding having large families in Islam. Clearly this is one of the most important memes for meme transmission. There are indirect instructions pertaining to this in the Quran (e.g., 4:3 polygyny, 2:223 your wives are a "tilth," etc.). However the direct instructions to have large families occur in the Hadith.

"Marry women who will love their husbands and be very prolific, for I wish you to be more numerous than any other people."
--the prophet Mohammad, quoted in the Mishkatu 'l-Masabih, book xiii
http://muslim-canada.org/marriage_dictionaryofislam.html

Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2045:
“Narrated Ma'qil ibn Yasar: A man came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: I have found a woman of rank and beauty, but she does not give birth to children. Should I marry her? He said: No. He came again to him, but he prohibited him. He came to him third time, and he (the Prophet) said: Marry women who are loving and very prolific, for I shall outnumber the peoples by you.”

Additional hadiths prescribing big families are cited at these links:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/13492/fertile

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/32668/fertile

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/6228/children

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/73416/hijab

Citizen Warrior is a solid strategic thinker. I'd...

2009-02-09T09:52:00.000-08:00

Citizen Warrior is a solid strategic thinker. I'd like to get better acquainted, but I will respect his anonymity.
"Anonymous" might be a John Bircher or similar who sees the One-worlders and Marxists as the dominant conspiracy that encompasses or controls all other conspiracies.
I view world politics as made up of many conspiracies of differing strengths. At different eras of history, different conspiracies are the threat du jour. Right now it is Islam.
As to the relationship between Islam and Marxism (or One-worlders) -- Communism took a body blow with its 1989 implosion in eastern Europe. It is regaining strength, esp. in China. For the time being, the Communists are aiding and encouraging Muslims behind the scenes as in northwestern South America. "Whosoever is the enemy of my enemy is my temporary friend." So we have to keep one eye on world communism while we fight off the scimatars coming at us through the front door.
Personally, I think that in a showdown between these two ogres, the Muslims will win as they did in Indonesia under Sukarno.
I think that Citizen Warrior is right in concentrating on the Islamic threat for the nonce.
I noticed that CitizenWarrior recommended The Sword of the Prophet by Serge Trifkovic (Regina Orthodox Press, Boston, 2002) which is the bgest history of Islam that I have read. I think that a good history is essential to understanding any movement.

Your blog is brilliant.In the UK, the Muslim commu...

2009-02-06T12:32:00.000-08:00

Your blog is brilliant.

In the UK, the Muslim community now has so much power, it only has to threaten a temper tantrum to get its own way. It's very worrying.

I am delighted to have come across your excellent site and will certainly be recommending it and linking to it in my own blog, which should be up and running within a few days.

Citizen Warrior,Your welcome

2008-12-05T11:17:00.000-08:00

Citizen Warrior,

Your welcome

Thanks, Damien. I appreciate it! I will do my best...

2008-12-05T00:54:00.000-08:00

Thanks, Damien. I appreciate it! I will do my best to never give up the fight until Islamic supremacists feel themselves subdued!

Citizen Warrior,Just to let you know, I linked to ...

2008-12-04T23:32:00.000-08:00

Citizen Warrior,

Just to let you know, I linked to this post of yours, while commenting on another person's blog. I want to encourage you to keep up the good work.

I came across another meme that makes Islam so eff...

2008-09-18T14:09:00.000-07:00

I came across another meme that makes Islam so effective: No peace agreements can last longer than ten years. So in other words, no peace agreements. It is more accurate to call them temporary truces.

So, for example, Israel keeps making "peace agreements" with Islamic Palestinians, and none of them stick. In Islamic doctrine, the purpose of a peace agreement is to stop the infidels from attacking you while you gain military strength.

As you can see, that's quite different from what most of us think of as a "peace agreement." And because it is different, Islam keeps gaining ground, in one-way fashion like a ratchet, as non-Muslims continually get lured into making concessions in order to "restore the peace."

Anonymous - I disagree that a diverse group of eth...

2008-08-22T10:49:00.000-07:00

Anonymous -

I disagree that a diverse group of ethnicities cannot join together. But I agree that the key component is shared core values. Many different ethnicities join the U.S. Marine Corps, for example, but they come out of basic training as loyal to each other, loyal to the Marine Corps, and loyal to the United States. Why? Because they were well indoctrinated in the same core values.

Blind multiculturalism is dangerous. But multiculturalism need not be blind. I have written about this previously here, here, and here. Countries in the free world could make sure aliens are well-indoctrinated into their core values before granting them citizenship.

And our core value of tolerance only needs the amendment, "mutual," to make it work. When tolerance goes too far and tolerates intolerance, we're all in trouble.

You wrote, "Of course, the primary tools you outline are essential benign weapons in this fight, but I fear the damage done and still being done by Marxist Liberalism, may have already hobbled the ability of Western civilization to maintain itself by those means alone."

What do you mean by that? What are you suggesting exactly?

Thank you, Citizen Warrior for your response.Where...

2008-08-21T17:31:00.000-07:00

Thank you, Citizen Warrior for your response.

Where Marxist Liberalism is concerned, its memes are based on inversions and perversion of the truth. All edicts contained in its Political Correctness doctrine are inversions of truth.

Multiculturalism! What precisely does the Left mean by this baseless and vacuous term of theirs?

There is no way, a collection of alien racial groups and their corresponding assortment of heritages, cultures, beliefs and social refineries herded into the one living space, can ever form a genuine or viable nation.

Why?

Because nations have at their root, a mono ethnicity thus common ancestry,lineage, language, heritage, culture and belief system which may or may not contain variations, but are still one-and-the-same at core. In other words, to correct an aberration of the above, you reinstate the core values of what constitutes a genuine nation and remove the rest.

Diversity

The Marxist Liberal notion of diversity is that's it's a progression from multiculturalism. What they deliberately obscure is the fact that the word diversity is merely a descriptive term pertaining to differences between objects or living things. It has nothing to do with social engineering and the construction of an artificial society which is in itself, the taking of words completely out of context and manipulating them to suit a specific purpose.

The above are only a couple of examples. There are others pertaining to moral aspects.

Marxist inversions such as homosexual marriage, unrestricted abortion, surrogacy, animal/human hybrid experimentations, mandated sex education including mind perversion of the extremely young (primary school age), to name but a few examples.

To counteract them, as with Islam, one first examines the underlying mindset and motivation(s) behind each dogma and secondly, places each up against truth and rationality. Truth and rationality will always triumph which is why totalitarian systems make the suppression of truth their primary objective.

Of course, the primary tools you outline are essential benign weapons in this fight, but I fear the damage done and still being done by Marxist Liberalism, may have already hobbled the ability of Western civilization to maintain itself by those means alone.

First, I think the Islamic Memeplex is brilliant i...

2008-08-21T14:15:00.000-07:00

First, I think the Islamic Memeplex is brilliant in the same way that the AIDS virus is brilliant. It isn't really brilliant at all, but it is so perfectly adapted to infect and undermine defenses that you can't help but admire the design.

Second, I agree that the "New World Order" is the main problem. It's not that Islam is so strong, it's that a certain element in the free world undermines our defenses.

So what exactly IS your solution for eliminating both monsters at the same time? What is the decisive action you suggest? If I understand you correctly, one of the things we need is a list of the brilliant memes of the leftists/Marxists. In which case, if you will write it up, I will publish it here on CitizenWarrior.com.

But even after that is done, that still leaves us with these primary tools: discussion, persuasion, and political action. That means sharing DVDs with our friends, choking off the money going to the Islamic Military (and/or the New World Order groups), steering conversations onto the topic, doing our best to persuade them successfully, and sharing online articles. Unless you have a better solution...

Excellent insight into the mindset of Islam by the...

2008-08-21T11:24:00.000-07:00

Excellent insight into the mindset of Islam by the author although I wouldn't agree that the Islamic version of the meme(s) strategy, is actually brilliant at all.

In the final analysis, it's just a repetition of the usual old school-yard bully approach, albeit with a few convenient adaptions including ongoing enforced memes replications along the way which after all is 1,400 years along the way, ie, more than enough time to tweak one idea here and jettison another there.

No, a better approach would be to get at the true heart of the problem, ie, the far more nefarious memes of the current Marxist Liberal-led New World Order agenda, (Political Correctness being merely just one example of these particular memes, and which is the true culprit responsible for inviting this mortal enemy of freedom and liberty (Islam) right into our collective non-Muslim backyards, and the treasonists that comprise this Communist system who are, for the most part our own indigenous leaders, are the ones actually using this alien memeplex, ie, (Islam) as weapons against their own indigenous countrymen and thus nations.

I suggest that's where we start because without the orchestrated and engineered support and duplicitous approval of the Left, Islam would not have been able to attain the degree of colonisation of the West and accompanying appeasement it has achieved to-date.

My solution for eliminating both monsters at the same time would be far more far-reaching AND final.

We simply no longer have the luxury of time on our side to dally via the vehicle of word of mouth and intellectual exchange.

Decisive action is of the essence - NOW

Winston Churchill noted the 'mind-virus' nature of...

2007-12-14T13:59:00.000-08:00

Winston Churchill noted the 'mind-virus' nature of Islam 70 years before Dawkins when he compared Islam in men to the rabies virus in dogs:
http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/2007/11/taqiyya-lies-and-muslim-propagana.html

Also, I wonder if Mohammed knew what he was doing and was a 'memetic engineer' 1400 years before the term was invented:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetic_engineering

Emerson, a Jew who gets itA perspective of a moder...

2007-11-08T22:59:00.000-08:00

Emerson, a Jew who gets it
A perspective of a moderate Muslim

At the risk of sounding anti-Semitic, I want to say this: either American Jews are completely clueless about the internal struggle inside Islam or they are so cowardly, that they are even afraid to voice their opinion. Or maybe it's a combination of both.

Every time there is a development that involves radical Islam, be it a Mayor of New York attending an Islamist parade, DOJ's officials attending an Islamist conference, or a protester being sued for having the balls to expose an Islamist-sponsored event at an amusement park, the American Jewish community is as quiet as a church mouse. It's like it is not even there.

The effect of this silence is devastating. Not for the Jewish community, not yet. That time is still to come. The silence affects the American Muslim community. Every time moderate Muslims are ignored and Islamists are legitimized (by either direct support from government representatives or silent support of the ADL), radicals gain ground. In the current PC climate, moderate Muslims have pretty much no choice but to keep their mouths shut.

Luckily for us, not everyone in the Jewish community is like that. There are some Jews that are speaking out. One of them is Steven Emerson, who has been warning the West about the dangers of Islamic fundamentalism since before PanAm 103. Most of his current work is focused on exposing the radicals masquerading as the moderates – those radicals who are embraced by the DOJ and the Pentagon, by the mayor of New York Bloomberg (Rudy would never get into bed with terrorist supporters) and the Treasury Department, by the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security, by the Congress and the White House.

There is a war of ideas within Islam, and moderate Muslims are losing. Most of Muslim clergy and Muslim establishment are paid for by the Wahhabis. Moderate Muslims are being run out of Mosques and community centers, and in many cases are physically threatened. Moderate Muslims have no place in the media or public debate, because the place reserved for Muslims is filled by Islamic radicals, who attempt to make criticizing anything Islamic a taboo. According to the Islamists, a Muslim can do no wrong.
1. When a non-Muslim criticizes Islam or Muslims, he/she is an Islamophobe.
2. When a Muslim criticizes Islam or Muslim, he/she is not a real Muslim, therefore see #1.

This is a tactic used by "moderate" Muslims, the darlings of the government and the media. But how can you call someone who praises bin Laden, or has ties to Hamas, or calls for the elimination of Israel, or wants to replace the Constitution with the Koran a moderate? They are anything but moderates, however nobody except for a few people like Steven Emerson seems to notice that. But even when the Emersons of America appeal to the public, they are often being dismissed as alarmists and racists. Well, they are anything, but. You don't have to be a clairvoyant to predict the future when it comes to expansion of radical Islam and extinction of moderate Muslims. All you need to do is get your heads out of the sand.

Why our government is so forgiving and forgetful when it comes to individuals or organizations with known terrorist ties and anti-American views is beyond me. Why the Jewish leaders are so timid when it comes to the subject of radical Islam is incomprehensible.

I thank God every day for people like Steven Emerson, because they are the last glimmer of hope for moderate Muslims.

K.M.

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Here's another one: Consider this number 27:A Musl...

2007-11-04T13:27:00.000-08:00

Here's another one: Consider this number 27:

A Muslim who can die in battle against the infidels not only gets into heaven, but he can intercede with Allah on behalf of 70 of his relatives.

"Intercede" means to "plead on behalf of someone." So in other words, the martyr can ask that some of his relatives get into heaven too, even if they sinned a little, and Allah will listen to the martyr.

This makes him feel less selfish in his desire to die in battle. And it encourages his relatives to support him in his quest to die on the battlefield (assuming he would be more likely to intercede on behalf of supportive relatives than unsupportive relatives).

Great post-I linked it to "Little Concrete Piranha...

2007-10-21T18:22:00.000-07:00

Great post-I linked it to "Little Concrete Piranhas" http://ourliberty1776.blogspot.com/
Keep getting the word out, I really think we help save the world. thank you, Bud of LCP