tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post2826746141982195135..comments2024-02-18T23:52:40.165-08:00Comments on Citizen Warrior: More on Using Scientology to Criticize IslamCitizen Warriorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-22032651368201530402013-06-22T00:19:31.752-07:002013-06-22T00:19:31.752-07:00In an interesting article on Salon.com, the author...In an interesting article on Salon.com, the author says this:<br /><br />The church adopted its scorched-earth policy toward critical journalists back when Paulette Cooper published “The Scandal of Scientology” in 1971; she was subsequently slapped with 19 lawsuits, as well as subjected to a harassment campaign with the stated intention of seeing her “incarcerated in a mental institution or jail.”<br /><br />Read the rest: <a href="http://www.salon.com/2013/01/17/going_clear_scientology_exposed/?utm_source=scribol.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=scribol.com" rel="nofollow">Going Clear</a>Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-88035022939374506602012-10-26T17:55:23.748-07:002012-10-26T17:55:23.748-07:00(continued)
Whatever people do today in the name ...(continued)<br /><br />Whatever people do today in the name of shariah, Islam says shariah is Koran. It is the ultimate source of religion. And nobody's interpretation could trascend it. If some does so, even in the name of Islam, it is the most severe sin in Islam: "To see yourself a match of God." And in Koran it is not written "kill your daughters if they want to be educated." What happens today in Muslim countries is a combined reaction of underdevelopment and consequent societal problems, and a constant state of war imposed on them by geopolitical agendas. <br /><br />There might have been no Bin Ladins or Ayetullah Homeynis if USA did not want them to be. USA pomped up religion in Muslim countries at the time of Cold War, to create a Green Belt around the then USSR. We have been through it. In 1979 Islamic Revolution of Iran happened, then one year later a military intervention in Turkey, in the meantime USSR has led into a war in Afghanistan with moujaheedeen, nourished by USA, through Pakistan, where also a military intervention took place. These were not accidents. In Turkey Islam was not arisen after being repressed for many many years, as the current government is now presenting. It WAS pomped, with seemingly small moves, people are encouraged to engage in Islamic activities, instead of reading books which were supposed to indoctrinate them, religion has come to forefront.<br /><br />It is always better to form informed opinions. If in Muslim countries people are stating their dissent about their governments, about foreign interventions in terms of religion, it is not because the religion in itself is not peaceful. It is because people look for legitimating themselves, their dissent in terms of religion, because after all it is a common point of rallying. Does Islam provide enough material to wage war against enemies? Koran openly says "Do not submit the cruel." This could be something of that kind of material.<br /><br /><br />I see that religious fanaticism, be it in the name of Islam, or in the name of Thatism, or Thisism is extremely dangerous. And every religion has the potential to turn into the tool of a fanatic. It is about people. According to me all the religions are in fact to cure this fanaticism, but here we are, this is the point we've come, it is a shame.Zümrüd-ü Ankahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04649969978741515466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-8246254534226642682012-10-26T17:53:50.916-07:002012-10-26T17:53:50.916-07:00I am a Muslim, and would be pleased to learn why I...I am a Muslim, and would be pleased to learn why Islam is not a peaceful religion according to you. If you mean jihad by "not being peaceful", then I may say you are definitely wrong. Jihad is an ideologized practice in Islam, not a practice of Islam, a practice of Islamism. In Koran it is strictly forbidden to use coercive practices to proselytize the religion. Basic tenets of Islam is about growing up spiritually. However I agree that the picture of Islam today is a picture of deterioriation, and it is true that not religious fanaticism, but religious ignorance in the name of religion is high on the ride.<br /> <br />If you've reached that conclusion after reading the history of Islam, about the conquests of Umayyads or Abbasids, or Ottoman emperors then you are definitely mixing the political and geopolitical moves with the tenets of the religion, because these conquests were legitimated in the name of "jihad". <br /><br />However, if you read the history of Christianity you may see that more people were forcefully converted to Christianity in Spain after 1492, and Europe has lived enough of a bloodshed because of wars in the name of religion. And every history of every religion I think contains some of this human misery. <br /> <br />Islam recognizes all the prophets, and it is one of its tenets to do so. However does not accept some parts of Christianity, basically Trinity. Because it says God cannot be a father, the logic of this is simple: According to Islam, God is one, and it is the ultimate creator, though its light, its breath is in humans, though the human has its reflection, a human can only reach God, become one with God, but cannot become God, or God cannot possess a human feature like being a father. Islam sees Trinity a distortion of true Christianity as revealed to Jesus. And we may say that the history of Christianity gives enough material to support this view. But Jesus and all the other prophets are dear to Muslims, though they recognize Mohammad as the last one. <br /><br />(to be continued)Zümrüd-ü Ankahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04649969978741515466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-11665349114029494562011-04-16T12:41:02.000-07:002011-04-16T12:41:02.000-07:00Messiah or Madman? is available as a free PDF down...Messiah or Madman? is available as a free PDF download. <a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B6nxlq1drI2SM2I1MTE0MDAtYWEwZi00ZmRiLTkyOGItYmRiOTg2YjFjZWZm&hl=en&authkey=CMvUi7IB" rel="nofollow">Get it here</a>.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07653370306514091899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-58137686698700033402011-03-04T23:51:33.544-08:002011-03-04T23:51:33.544-08:00Seems like excellent advice you are giving. By fo...Seems like excellent advice you are giving. By focusing on two cults, rather than just on Islam, one takes a more objective, detached position. If one focuses only on Islam, that can seem like an irrational hating fixation. But if one focuses on two cults (or more), then the starting point is plural, comparative, and seems inherently detached, objective, knowledge-based. It demonstrates that knowledge is the driving force. <br /><br />Whereas, if you focus on Islam only, it can be an up hill battle to convince people knowledge is what motivates you. Instead, the relentlessness of focus on one group can make it seem that one is trying to drum up a lynch mob, or like you are ringing an emergency bell. We can seem like a drum that never stops. People instinctively or unconsciously ask themselves, why is this drumbeat or emergency bell so relentless? Why can't these people let go even for a second? What will I be driven to if I join this too urgent crowd, or is it a mob? Is this some sort of frenzy? Where will it lead?<br /><br />But if you shift your focus from one group to more than one, perhaps that sense of a frenzied monomania would be dissipated, and people would calm down and listen to some hard truths about Islam.<br /><br />I wonder whether it would be good after Hubbard, to build up to including knowledge of other cult leaders in one's repertoire to explain Muhammad and Islam.<br /><br />Ali Sina occasionally compares Muhammad to other famous cult leaders.Traehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09997009621742454158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-33320978237898156272011-02-28T01:48:31.479-08:002011-02-28T01:48:31.479-08:00It is definitely tricky but can be fun game. Yes t...It is definitely tricky but can be fun game. Yes this religion believes in fun and game play and there will be creative questions and answers. It criticises islamic principles by strength of own religion principles and game rules. if any islamic person critices message can come, "our messenger came on screen and said that its not allowed!" one can't criticise! he/she will be punished!<br /><br /><br />its brilliant idea.. but just like Citizen Warrior spend his time her.. it needs dedicated time of individuals and groups and may take time to surface as we need to create solid principles and discuss..<br /><br />it must perhaps be confidential to begin withManishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-30998706709117271592011-02-26T17:58:36.570-08:002011-02-26T17:58:36.570-08:00We've entered A New Era in Muslim-Non-Muslim R...We've entered <a href="http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/09/new-era-in-muslim-non-muslim-relations.html" rel="nofollow">A New Era in Muslim-Non-Muslim Relations</a>.<br /><br />Get on board.<br /><br />What I am trying to do on this blog is empower educated non-Muslims in educating their fellow non-Muslims about the fact that Islam, as defined by its own doctrine, is not what we would naturally assume it is. And the actual doctrine of Islam is not peaceful. It is intolerant and aggressive. <br /><br />I've made it perfectly clear throughout this blog that I know many, if not most, Muslims reject part of the Islamic doctrine. That doesn't make the doctrine peaceful.<br /><br />But if I criticize Islam too severely or give Muslims who reject jihad the impression that I'm criticizing ALL Muslims, will that make those jihad-rejecting Muslims embrace jihad? <br /><br /><a href="http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/08/criticizing-islamic-doctrine-will-turn.html" rel="nofollow">See my full answer to this absurd suggestion here</a>.Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-58421899490907273462011-02-26T16:29:21.985-08:002011-02-26T16:29:21.985-08:00You are clearly an intelligent person. May I share...You are clearly an intelligent person. May I share some of my input on how the Muslim community can work together with you on the critical issues raised by your blog?<br /><br />I wish you would use a term like "Islamism" or "political Islam" or "Islamic extremism" in your criticism rather than the blanket term "Islam". Surely you must know that you're only talking about 3% of Muslims worldwide. Granted the 3% of wacko extremist Muslims is a dangerously HIGH number when you do the math!! <br /><br />You do know that nearly one quarter of the planet is Muslim, right? And the number is growing. Hajj is a cultural event comparable to 20 Superbowls!<br /><br />Have you ever hung out or worked together with traditional mainstream Muslims, for instance Sunni which are 90% of the world's Muslims? You will see that they have the same concerns as you about Islamism and about the political tyrants that hurt the lives of both Muslims and non-Muslims in their home countries and in their foreign policy with the West. Look at what happened in Egypt, where regular Muslims, Christians, non-believers, everybody got together. Christians formed chains around their Muslim brothers while they prayed to protect them. I agree that Muslim Brotherhood is a problem. But again this is an Islamist political organization. It does not represent the majority of Muslims any more than some of our own crazy political lobby groups represent all of us.<br /><br />By making no clear distinction in your blog between Islam and Islamism, you are lumping together a HUGE number of potential allies into the same camp as oppressors, risking offending them by showing you don't even know the difference. <br /><br />When you use a term like Islam as the subject of your attack, this also misleads uneducated Western readers into thinking you're actually talking about the billions of religious non-extremist non-politicized Muslims around the world who are fighting the same battles against corrupt groups as you.<br /><br />Just like your average working American has no beef against your average working Afghan dude, if you include the regular peaceful Muslims in your criticisms, you invite them as your enemy instead of your ally in addressing the problem of extremism. You are also adding more fuel in the fire that strengthens the extremists you claim to oppose.<br /><br />Have you thought about reaching out to local Muslim leaders in your community to work together on the problem? I don't want to believe you are Islamophobic, as many good Muslim people who don't understand your worries might jump to conclude. I think you are just a smart guy who is a bit unexposed to what the colossal majority of Muslims of the world do and don't believe in their day to day lives and cultural realities. <br /><br />Sophie HillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-83488663159354907652011-02-26T14:50:03.275-08:002011-02-26T14:50:03.275-08:00I remember you well. How can anyone forget the nam...I remember you well. How can anyone forget the name, Gormflaith The Banshee?<br /><br />I have your Glamor Bombing idea on WhatYouCanDoAboutIslam.com.<br /><br />Yes, I think our efforts are paying off. America IS waking up.Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-3617923973290413612011-02-26T10:10:08.729-08:002011-02-26T10:10:08.729-08:00Thank you CW, the Scientology gambit
is actually p...Thank you CW, the Scientology gambit<br />is actually perfect. I am the lady<br />who sent you the Glamor Bombing stuff a while back. Actually I have read<br />everything ever written about LRH<br />and a lot of Scientology techniques<br />can be used to let people know how dangerous Sharia is. Recently a lot of people who thought I was nuts on this subject have come around and asked to borrow my books. I have a full library of books and articles and some dvds, <br />like The Third Jihad that I lend out. America is waking up.Gormflaith The Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16983684618780190177noreply@blogger.com