Comments on Citizen Warrior: The Struggle to Reach People

CHERYL: The BNP is anti Jewish, and anti Asian, ...

2009-11-06T05:02:26.982-08:00

CHERYL:

The BNP is anti Jewish, and anti Asian, anti Black, anti Gay.

The PROOF that the BNP is anti Jewish is that it has close ties with almost every NEO NAZI GROUP IN EUROPE.

Footage of BNP meetings also reveals that many take place behind doors with SWASTIKAS ON THEM.

The BNP has always denied the Holocaust and has referred to it repeatedly as the 'holohoax'.

Now, if you don't realise this is anti semitic, then frankly more fool you.

I've seen the footage of BNP members discussing Jews, Black and Asian people. I recognise RACISM when I hear it.

You should too.

One massive problem with this: Cheryl is a member ...

2009-11-06T04:59:24.017-08:00

One massive problem with this: Cheryl is a member of the BNP. This is a neo Nazi party which BANS all NON WHITES from becoming members, not that any would wish to.

I too am extremely worried about the Islamisation of Europe, but I would like to point out to other readers that the answer is NOT to support the vile BNP.

Anyone who wants more info on the British National Party should go here:
http://www.hopenothate.com

The BNP has links with virtually every neo Nazi group in Europe. BNP leader Nick Griffin was prosecuted for incitement to racial hatred some years back.

The BNP also denies the Holocaust.

@Paul Revere I don't say to hide the truth, but pe...

2009-04-29T15:32:00.000-07:00

@Paul Revere
I don't say to hide the truth, but people need time to change their world view. Too much, too early and they will fear you and not them. Negation is a psychological defense system.

Better to give them a drop of bitter truth every day, this will not activate their defenses and slowly they will start to accept the truth.

My bet is that by 2010-2012 we will see troubles in Europe, somewhere. Obama project weakness, Brown project weakness, many governments in Europe and elsewhere project weakness. And weakness invite aggression.

The sad thing is we need to wait they do something really stupid and violent, so more people will awake and ask actions and will not accept excuses. This is the only way people could be awakened faster. But anyone that advocate appeasement to the Muslims feed them to the Muslims. Let them do their bed and sleep inside.

PlainLord2k Yes, I don't want to be marginalized a...

2009-04-29T09:22:00.000-07:00

PlainLord2k
Yes, I don't want to be marginalized as an extremist, and thereby nullify my message, BUT
one thing I DONT want to marginalize is the TRUTH.
We CANNOT say "Islam is Peace" and try to just that against tens of thousands ( www.TheReligionOfPeace.com ) of examples to the contrary.
Craig Winn( www.ProphetOfDoom.net ) has a great quote that cuts through the clutter: "Islam is as Islam does." We should be quoting that one over and over and over again to all those who "just want this whole Islam problem to go away." It will NOT go away with wishful thinking, or (as Cheryl so righly stated) with hopes and prayers. Evil has to be confronted. And NO ONE likes confrontation, but this problem will get worse until we're ready to step up and call a spade a spade.
I DO want my message to be effective, but I will not marginalize truth. Truth IS the effective message.

Thank you for your great insights. I got an insigh...

2009-04-29T08:44:00.000-07:00

Thank you for your great insights. I got an insight off of this statement, which might apply to MANY westerners. You wrote: “I actually felt a sense of of personal hurt... “

Westerners cannot understand how a group of people could just hate them.
I thought to myself an answer to that statement:

It's not personal, they just hate you (because you're not Muslim).

This is a concept that western thinkers just cannot wrap their heads around because we don't think like that. We think that any act of violence has to be someone's fault, and since it can't be the fault of a religion (that's wrongly perceived to be in the same vein as Judaism and Christianity), let alone a religion that is often (wrongly)sub-named "the religion of peace", It has to be our fault, and somehow we deserve it, and we must do what we can to understand them (although WE DON’T ACTUALLY DO IT,) and Westerners in general feel a sense of personal hurt and think, "what can I do to stop radical Islam's violence," in other words, "what can I do to acquiesce to Islam's demands so they'll quit blowing us up?"

The sad answer – and the REAL understanding - is the REAL answer:
There is nothing you can do except become Muslim and join them.
And even then, that may not be enough, because as we've seen hundreds of times, Muslims sometimes attack Muslims for not being Muslim enough.

Islam cannot be changed. And Westerners need to get their head around this:

It's not personal, they just hate you (because you're not Muslim).

Brigitte Gabriel's "Because They Hate" book is a GREAT picture of this realization, and a compelling STORY. It does a great job of being RELATIONAL, and gets to the heart of the people behind the news stories you see from thousands of miles away.

Paul Revere

I think you all need to stop bashing the BNP right...

2009-04-26T16:31:00.000-07:00

I think you all need to stop bashing the BNP right now.
ISLAM IS the threat and problem now worldwide and not British who prefer whites to be citizens.

Honestly, if you reject BNP you are choosing national suicide as the Labor, Tories, and the so-called Conservatives -a true abuse of the term- WILL NEVER stand up for and defend the British people.

If anything, those seditious parties should be banned and revamped.

Just to let you know, there are moves now to outlaw the BNP for the next elections as it is noticed many, many people are jumping to vote for the BNP who are totally fed up with the same crap from the other 3 parties.

Tell me now, does the BNP sound like the threat or your so-called democrtic parties trying to eliminate legal, politcal competition in a democracy?

They probably dont love Jewish people but the worst they would do is ask for them to leave with money and not kill anyone as muslims are commanded in the koran so get your priorities straight when picking a TRUE threat to Brits.

If anyone followed the link to the video Islam's N...

2009-04-25T16:07:00.000-07:00

If anyone followed the link to the video Islam's Not For Me they will see that it's on the British People's Party website. The British People's Party, while being vehemently opposed to islam, are unfortunately anti-semitic. BNP members are not allowed to join the BPP in view of this.

The BNP are not anti-Jewish. There are some Jewis...

2009-04-25T15:48:00.000-07:00

The BNP are not anti-Jewish. There are some Jewish members and also an officeholder, Pat Richardson, who was elected as councillor by the people of Epping Forest, north of London. Nick Griffin has said that islam is a 'wicked and vicious' religion, and was acquitted in the courts on that issue. It's true that in 1998 he had some anti-semitic views and was given a suspended prison sentence for denying the holocaust. But he has since publicly renounced these ideas, now believing that he was utterly mistaken.

It was my letter that Citizen Warrior quoted from. I'm not Jewish but have spent the happiest years of my life in Israel and have Jewish friends. I took a long hard look at the BNP and I met Nick Griffin, before joining, as there's no way I'd get involved with anything remotely anti-Jewish. The BNP are well aware of the threat of islam in the UK. They recognise that Jews and Christians are the common enemy of islam. They support Israel against hamas and were appalled by the dreadful anti-Jewish demonstrations a few months ago, and the lack of prosecutions for that hate.

If the BNP ever got into power, we would ban islam, close all the mosques and ban the production and import of halal meat.

They are trying to educate and save everyone from islam, and it's awful to think that some people see the BNP as the same as the executioners of the Jews. Some people are even calling Israeli soldiers nazis. The real nazis are those who will kill us all in an instant when they have enough numbers, and these monsters are well down that road already.

I would say that Englishmen and Englishwomen must ...

2009-04-22T04:24:00.000-07:00

I would say that Englishmen and Englishwomen must take what is given, not what is not given.
What is the alternative to the BNP?
Labour? NO
Tory? NO
What else?

You combat with the allies and the weapons and the people you have, not with the allies, people and weapons you like.

In WW2, UK and US allied with USSR, and the USSR was not better than the Nazi. They were allies each other until 1941.

BNP in the past was racist...? Oh, come on - you'...

2009-04-21T12:02:00.000-07:00

BNP in the past was racist...? Oh, come on - you're not serious? Ae you actually trying to say that the Nazi party has changed? That they are now the peace-niks of the global politics? Dream on! Yes, Islam is a threat, but (as has already been stated) replacing one threat with another does not solve the problem!

Jew with a view, Yes its true that the BNP in the...

2009-04-18T07:17:00.000-07:00

Jew with a view,

Yes its true that the BNP in the past was racist and had a skin head image but these days its a respectable party which just wants to give the indigineous people their country back...is this too much to ask for? Actually most, if not all, BNP members are former Labour/Tory supporting ordinary people who have just had enough. I suggest you attend a BNP meeting and just LISTEN to the topics being discussed, it might surprise you!

Just to back up a comment I posted earlier about t...

2009-04-16T07:27:00.000-07:00

Just to back up a comment I posted earlier about the BNP being a Neo Nazi party, here is what their election manifesto states:

The BNP constitution says that anyone who cannot prove a link to Britain before 1948 can never be considered British.

“The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples.
It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration.”

- BNP constitution

More on the BNP at http://ajewwithaview.wordpress.com

Like Cheryl, I too am in the UK and am extremely w...

2009-04-16T05:07:00.000-07:00

Like Cheryl, I too am in the UK and am extremely worried about Islam and the way our gutless government panders to the Muslim community.

But I'd like to address one thing mentioned by Cheryl: her support for the British National Party (BNP).

The BNP is a neo Nazi party and always has been. The current leader of the party, Nick Griffin, has already been officially found guilty of incitement to racial hatred, because of his spiteful remarks about Jews in the magazine he used to edit, 'Rune'.

The BNP manifesto states that all 'non britons' (translation: non whites) will be 'offered repatriation' if the BNP ever gets into power. In other words: ALL British Jews, Asians and Blacks will be 'offered' the chance to LEAVE the UK, even though many of us were BORN here.

I can offer many more alarming examples of racist BNP policy but I don't want to hijack this thread. So if anyone DOES want more info, please visit http://ajewwithaview.wordpress.com

I'm going to post the extra info there right now and it should be up within thirty minutes.

Many British citizens, me included are terrified at the encroachment of Islam in the UK. But supporting the Nazi policies of the BNP is NOT THE WAY.

We need push the informations in a considerate way...

2009-04-15T16:48:00.000-07:00

We need push the informations in a considerate way. This to avoid to generate an opposite effect in the people we contact. People need enough time to understand the problem and the solutions and accept them. If we feed thm too fast, they will react emotively and will reject us as "extremists".

We must try to be practical, with the problems they will face in their daily lives. So, muslims immigrations, crime, attacks against children, preferential tretament for immigrants, high burden of taxes, muslims pretending people to accomodate their preferences, etc.

First, tune them up with small things then step up with other things.

CW, sorry I misread your post....ignore my rant......

2009-04-15T15:17:00.000-07:00

CW, sorry I misread your post....ignore my rant....it is clear you do know that Islam is the problem. I think I am spending too much time on this...GtheB

C.W.- excellent article. I do want to tell you how...

2009-04-15T15:13:00.000-07:00

C.W.- excellent article. I do want to tell you however, that Islam has not been hijacked by extremists. NO, the so called moderates are waiting until the Muslim numbers are big enough to take on the giant of Christianity and the U.S. There are some Muslims who would like to practice their "faith", be left alone and would not cause us harm.
Unfortunately, they are all connected to others through family relationships that when push comes to shove, will not stand up for themselves or us. I know about this personally. Any doctrine that holds another person as worth 50%
of another person because of gender can not be tolerated in a modern society. So, let's all get over this hijacked thing and face facts.
Didn't anyone notice that Obama bowed deeply to the Saudi king who
owns a good part of the world...we are in trouble and even if it's tough we must continue to talk to people so that when the handwriting is really on the wall it won't be so hard for them notice. Cheryl, I am here for you and so are others. Do not let them break you.

Another excellent post; keep up the good work.

2009-04-15T13:01:00.000-07:00

Another excellent post; keep up the good work.