tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post1786350297043812596..comments2024-02-18T23:52:40.165-08:00Comments on Citizen Warrior: Spelling "Quran:" Who Are We Trying to Reach?Citizen Warriorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-33545670412147023452017-11-27T14:29:04.039-08:002017-11-27T14:29:04.039-08:00Well, crap! Now I'M confused because I figured...Well, crap! Now I'M confused because I figured as sensitive as the Muslims are, there would Be a clearcut: This is the respectful/accepted way...and THIS is the derogatory, inflammatory/unaccepted way, so that people could use it 'the 'appropriate' way in their writing', lol! Seriously,CW, I love your approach and have been watching Robert Spencer's youtube vids lately, and a calm simple Reading of the Koran is pretty damning to anyone in western civilization. Almost every step the West considers to have take toward 'civilization', islam (see, here I Am like your commenter in NOT spelling it with a capital) keeps the barbaric beliefs, on pain of dismemberment or Death!<br />But I loved his and Pamela Geller's 'draw mohammed' contest, and have also been exploring those that ridicule and defame islam and it's associated terrorism, because as you tell her: I'VE already been reached!, because I believe it will have an important role in fighting islamic terrorism as soon as your ilk have reached a large enough audience and worked your magic. So keep up the good work, way to keep an open mind in your exchange with her!<br />PS While I Love your stated objective, don't you think That calm, rational statement is about as Big a TURNOFF to your target audience as shouting F Allah in a mosque,lol?!! Be careful my friend, Robert Spencer got banned from Britain for saying simply: "Islam has a written doctrine of war on the unbelievers." ...approximately<br />yours,<br />Chris<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342612788383934470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-89216979592484372042017-11-27T14:27:48.074-08:002017-11-27T14:27:48.074-08:00Well, crap! Now I'M confused because I figured...Well, crap! Now I'M confused because I figured as sensitive as the Muslims are, there would Be a clearcut: This is the respectful/accepted way...and THIS is the derogatory, inflammatory/unaccepted way, so that people could use it 'the 'appropriate' way in their writing', lol! Seriously,CW, I love your approach and have been watching Robert Spencer's youtube vids lately, and a calm simple Reading of the Koran is pretty damning to anyone in western civilization. Almost every step the West considers to have take toward 'civilization', islam (see, here I Am like your commenter in NOT spelling it with a capital) keeps the barbaric beliefs, on pain of dismemberment or Death!<br />But I loved his and Pamela Geller's 'draw mohammed' contest, and have also been exploring those that ridicule and defame islam and it's associated terrorism, because as you tell her: I'VE already been reached!, because I believe it will have an important role in fighting islamic terrorism as soon as your ilk have reached a large enough audience and worked your magic. So keep up the good work, way to keep an open mind in your exchange with her!<br />PS While I Love your stated objective, don't you think That calm, rational statement is about as Big a TURNOFF to your target audience as shouting F Allah in a mosque,lol?!! Be careful my friend, Robert Spencer got banned from Britain for saying simply: "Islam has a written doctrine of war on the unbelievers." ...approximately<br />yours,<br />Chris<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342612788383934470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-9318868954155182692015-01-17T08:35:41.125-08:002015-01-17T08:35:41.125-08:00This has been beneficial to my understanding of Is...This has been beneficial to my understanding of Islam if not comforting. Thanks for taking the time to actually learn and share your information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-15103087793188437582014-12-13T13:35:59.502-08:002014-12-13T13:35:59.502-08:00it should be Qur'anit should be Qur'anAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-80966420749983021442014-06-22T09:30:43.523-07:002014-06-22T09:30:43.523-07:00I don't think it matters; I prefer Koran becau...I don't think it matters; I prefer Koran because in English qu- is ALWAYS followed by a vowel and Qu'ran looks to me contrived and unnatural. In a way another example of Islamic supremacy, riding roughshod over the English language. <br /><br />To hell with ANY 'consideration' for Islam, it neither deserves nor has earned it, quite the reverse. Muslims are experts at taking offence at the slightest thing, part of the jihad to terrorise us- and it works so well. IF WE ALLOW IT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-89324639315038507772011-01-23T07:05:16.488-08:002011-01-23T07:05:16.488-08:00This is also an issue of whether or not the conver...This is also an issue of whether or not the conversation is politically charged.<br /><br />Many Americans who do not know there is a debate about Islam received an education in less volatile times. In normal English classes they were taught spellings like Koran and Moslem.<br /><br />So their usage of these spellings is quite innocent and not intended to be choosing a side in our debate. Citizen Warrior is making a thoughtful analysis of what methods will best advance our cause. That effort is commendable.John Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-36720603776733407432011-01-22T20:05:53.142-08:002011-01-22T20:05:53.142-08:00The French spell it Coran. In vocal communication,...The French spell it Coran. In vocal communication, it is the sound is important, a close match in vocalization, accompanied by context, allows the listener to interpret the sound correctly. <br /><br />The Arab and Western languages use different sounds. We are not going to match theirs exactly, nor are the Arabs our primary audience. <br /><br />My blog posts are read in America, Canada, Britain, Germany, Holland, Arabia and Asia. I am not going to please all of them. My content will offend most of them. <br /><br />I want to provoke my readers to do two things: explore the source texts for themselves and think rationally about what they read. <br /><br />Sometimes I spell it Qur'an. At other times, I spell it Koran. <br /><br />If I quote a source that spells it one way or the other, I may or may not adopt the source's style for that post. On all occasions I curse and condemn Islam. <br /><br />In any case, most of the self-righteous, willfully self-blinded bigots firmly convinced in their error will not be provoked either to read or to think. They are lost already. <br /><br />I will frequently use the accepted style, but I will not cater to prejudice. I will not give respect where it is not earned any more than I would give undue credit. <br /><br />Some Zealots refuse to capitalize words relative to Islam. I am not one of them, but I have drifted away from capitalizing mosque. <br /><br />Two of my blogs have resource pages with extensive lists of links to Islamic texts. Sadly, their audience is predominantly Arabic & Asian even though their titles are aggressively Zealous: "Go Burn With Muhammad" and "Islamophobia Exposed". Most Westerners do not go searching for Islamic texts.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975775791961343435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-91696180951767747132011-01-22T07:42:08.545-08:002011-01-22T07:42:08.545-08:00Hi
I switched from Q to K because someone persuade...Hi<br />I switched from Q to K because someone persuaded me that was "correct". Now, because everything you say emphasises that Q is the received Muslim manner im switching back to it again.<br /><br />All your reasoning explained in the example is totally spot on perfect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-50601481097981894552011-01-22T00:03:01.094-08:002011-01-22T00:03:01.094-08:00So much care.. just forword Q and K
the fight is ...So much care.. just forword Q and K<br /><br />the fight is on in right direction<br />i appreciate efforts with open minds hereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-33470312075546283742011-01-21T23:30:27.432-08:002011-01-21T23:30:27.432-08:00Wikipedia prefers Qur’an with the pronunciation of...Wikipedia prefers Qur’an with the pronunciation of Koran. You say potato I say potarto...:)Lexcenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17856993035719777231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-42275540031085717492011-01-21T13:22:43.513-08:002011-01-21T13:22:43.513-08:00Yes, indeed.Yes, indeed.Citizen Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265844262699107352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-53358468445814368372011-01-21T12:51:56.862-08:002011-01-21T12:51:56.862-08:00Citizen Warrior,
I should have read through your ...Citizen Warrior,<br /><br />I should have read through your article more carefully, you think we should spell it "Koran" instead of "Quran?"Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503986435514614182.post-59579542394666838112011-01-21T11:46:34.805-08:002011-01-21T11:46:34.805-08:00Citizen Warrior,
You make a good point. I've...Citizen Warrior,<br /><br />You make a good point. I've always spelled it "Koran" with "K," just because that's the way I'm used to spelling it. I never thought about it before. I'll try to remember to spell it as "Quran" from now on. <br /><br />Thanks.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.com